Do you push here?

[brizzypare]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t540)
UTG (t405)
MP1 (t1735)
MP2 (t890)
CO (t1265)
Button (t2670)
Hero (t495)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero ???

Is this an easy push?

[silversurfer]

Why would you? That is a less than average hand. The median is Q8, I believe (and I wouldn't push with that here either. Wait until the next time you get Ax, suited connectors, or broadway cards at the very least given the situation you have described.

[brizzypare]

I read somewhere that all in in the SB with &lt; 8 BB was profitable with any two random cards. Was I using this wrong?

[Phil Van Sexton]

I push with any 2 cards.

[robokop]

I think you mean &lt; 8 BB. And I'm unsure of the truth of the argument.

I wouldn't push here.

[adanthar]

This fully depends on the BB. If he's an idiot, no. If he's seemed reasonable, push 32o.

[eastbay]

[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t540)
UTG (t405)
MP1 (t1735)
MP2 (t890)
CO (t1265)
Button (t2670)
Hero (t495)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero ???

Is this an easy push?

[/ QUOTE ]

Easy push, IMO, even for a fairly loose BB. The reason is that you increase your equity a great deal (ICM estimates &gt;1/3) when you pick up the blinds here.

http://rwa.homelinux.net/poker/loose-J5o.PNG


For a reasonably tight BB, 32o is an easy push:

http://rwa.homelinux.net/poker/tight-32o.PNG

So, I think Phil hit the mark here, as usual. You can quibble about the equity values here, but I think it gives the correct ordering, which is all you need to make these decisions.

eastbay

PS The screenshots are a program I'm developing that is not released yet, to respond to the usual follow-up.

[lastchance]

For me, yeah.

[morgan180]

[ QUOTE ]
I push with any 2 cards.

[/ QUOTE ]

i agree - push away.

[morgan180]

eastbay, that thing looks ridiculous (as in ridiculously impressive)

[johnnybeef]

[ QUOTE ]
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t540)
UTG (t405)
MP1 (t1735)
MP2 (t890)
CO (t1265)
Button (t2670)
Hero (t495)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero ???

Is this an easy push?

[/ QUOTE ]

if you havent raised in a while, and you have noticed the bb is passive, yes. other wise no.

[silversurfer]

I don't like it, but it's hard to argue with all that data /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Vetstadium]

I prob push here esp since there are 7 left gonna need something to happen with your chip count that 100 chips with no battle is a good start (if he calls at least you put them on a decision).

[Roman]

I think that range is awfully conservative. I prolly call 22+, QTs+, K6+ A2+.

That said, I push any two /images/graemlins/smile.gif.

[spentrent]

I was short-stacked in a $20+2 yesterday on Party at level 4 (50/100). I started maniacally pushing in that situation -- it was 5-handed and I got to do it 4 times on level 4 and 5. Finally the BB, tired of my abuse, decides to make a stand with 78s.

That's right, 78s.

I say, "So you finally call me down with 78s?"

BB replies, "You were doing that way too much."

You can't beat logic like that /images/graemlins/wink.gif.