83o on BB; did I play it weak?

[chipolino]

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Should I have capped it here? My thoughts were: Did he hit trips? or 2 pair with K8s.


Turn: (9.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds, CO calls.

Should I come out betting here? I didn't since I didn't cap it PF. If I would have I would've bet here.

River: (12.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $1 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 15.25 BB

I think I played it weak. What do u guys think?

[coolhandj]

I think the biggest mistake in this hand was the failure to take into account the chipstack of the button player. constantly i see this happen at the casino, at a low stakes game, a player gets extremely low on chips, and know's this this is the last hand he will be able to play, UNLESS he wins it. This means that he is going to throw his money into the pot as fast as he can to try and win, bluffing or not.

I think you played this hand well untill the turn. I don't think you gain to much in this situation by capping the flop, unless you feel that there is a good chance it will single out the button player.

I think you definatly should have raised here on the turn,

-to single out the button player, who is likely betting because he's decided to go down with this hand no matter what.

the main reason i believe you are ahead is that if the button did have top 2 pair, he would most likely try to slowplay it, especially since he is low on chips, he would want to make up as much of his stack as he could.

[Greg J]

Bet this flop. Everytime. Don't get fancy. If you get raised from LP, you can check the turn and probably go for a checkraise. You have a wonderful chance to protect your hand on the turn... you should have taken it.

[Nick C]

Button's flop call/3-bet is kind of scary, especially since there aren't really any draws on the board. However, he is also almost all-in, which makes it less scary. (Players will often raise lighter when they're nearly all-in.) Also, if he does happen to be ahead of you, you'd like to get through his stack and hope to win a decent side pot from the other players who are in.

I think capping the flop is a good idea, but the remaining size of Button's stack makes me hesitate a little. (I think it might be better for him to have $2 left on the turn instead of $1.50. I'm not sure about that, though, and I also don't know Absolute Poker's rules regarding what you're allowed to do if Button makes a $.50 turn raise.) Even after you didn't cap the flop, I think leading the turn is something to consider, although checkraising is also possible and would do more to protect your hand. (Anyone with a king can pull ahead of you by catching another king, by catching a ten on the river, or by pairing their kicker on the river. Someone with a hand like 99 could also pull ahead of you in a number of ways, but I don't think that's the best hand out there against you, so a hand like 99 probably has only two unduplicated outs against your hand.)

Anyway, calling the flop 3-bet and going for a checkraise on the turn would provide the most protection to your hand, and I don't think there's too much danger here of the Button letting the turn get checked through. And I think there's a good chance that CO, anyway, has a king. But I doubt he'll fold it. (The table appears to be loose.) So leading the turn, letting Button raise all-in, and then 3-betting, in the hopes that your hand is best and will hold up, starts to look attractive. This plan could potentially keep UTG in for one more bet too (I think he's probably chasing an ace or a set or something) before he folds.

Anyway, I'm not entirely sure what the best plan is after Button 3-bets the flop, but I do think you should have gotten more bets in.

[chipolino]

I admit I completely missed his size stack. I only noticed it when he went all in.

[chipolino]

Yes, not raising the turn was kind of weak on my part. Definately should have protected my hand here.

[chipolino]

Results: Button had K /images/graemlins/heart.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero wins with 2 pairs

[btspider]

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Results: Button had K /images/graemlins/heart.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Hero wins with 2 pairs

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bet the flop.

button could literally show me KK and i'll be using his all-in tendency here to trap others for bets (or protect w/ a turn check-raise here).

[VTDuffman]

Bet out, and 3-bet this flop. In your case, cap this flop. Thinking he could have K3, K8, 33, or 88 is a terrible case of monsters under the bed thinking. Those are the only 4 hands that are ahead of you. We cap this flop to try and get UTG and CO out. They already called two cold, they probably will call two more cold, but that's not the point. The point is that they might not. Capping increases your chances to win.

Raise this turn for the same reason. This card doesn't really help any draws, and button is shortstacked. He's pushing a lone K. You want to get Button heads-up here, get the other guys out.

Bet this river. This card is a blank. Button will call. You want his last BB, don't give him a chance to check through on you.

Much much too weak, IMHO. You got the BB special, milk it.