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Nice_Guy
02-19-2005, 08:19 PM
The villain in this scenario is playing 35% raising 11% preflop. I have no information on what his 3-bet standards are.

Is this a standard check/fold?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls.

Flop: (9.40 SB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.70 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
deadmunny
02-19-2005, 08:24 PM
mmmmmmm This is above my limit, I know @ $2/$4 I would probably check/call it down......... there are loads of hands where button could 3-bet, AJs, AQs, JJ, 10's...interested to see what the experts say,

Regards D
mr pink
02-19-2005, 08:29 PM
i think you should have 3-bet him on the flop
Nice_Guy
02-19-2005, 08:37 PM
I figured I would get that suggestion right away. I thought about 3 betting but couldn't. He seemed to not fear the fact that I'm coming out betting after capping preflop and that gave me some cause to slow down. Weak?
Nate tha' Great
02-19-2005, 08:40 PM
The K isn't all that bad a card for you in this spot. Most opponents won't raise just overcards on the flop after you've capped preflop and led the flop so I think we're likely looking at a hand range of 99-AA against this opponent. You're still ahead of 99-JJ and way behind KK-AA so I think it's a call down. In fact the turn card is arguably a good one for you since it makes KK less likely.

I think you need to give more action on the flop, though. This guy isn't a rock.
Nice_Guy
02-19-2005, 08:49 PM
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The K isn't all that bad a card for you in this spot. Most opponents won't raise just overcards on the flop after you've capped preflop and led the flop so I think we're likely looking at a hand range of 99-AA against this opponent. You're still ahead of 99-JJ and way behind KK-AA so I think it's a call down. In fact the turn card is arguably a good one for you since it makes KK less likely.

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This was my thinking while playing the hand so I chose to call it down. It didn't sit right with me after the fact though.
sfwusc
02-19-2005, 09:13 PM
I guess you have to call down.

6BB pot after the flop...Calling down cost 2BB


I think you are good atleast 20% of the time.
krishanleong
02-20-2005, 12:30 AM
I wouldn't fold. I definitely would have 3-bet the flop.

He could easily have 99-JJ.

Krishan