BBs for buy in?

[masse75]

Any guidance on how many BB's to bring for buy in at B&M, as related to the SB and BB? Assuming limit structure. Would I need more at a lower limit table due to increased (fish) action?

Of course, it may be a moot point. Need to ask for permission to go first.

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[csuf_gambler]

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Any guidance on how many BB's to bring for buy in at B&M, as related to the SB and BB? Assuming limit structure. Would I need more at a lower limit table due to increased (fish) action?

Of course, it may be a moot point. Need to ask for permission to go first.

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general rule is to buy in for at least 30bb's. 3/6 i buy in for $200(its convienient), 4/8 $300, and when i hit that 8/16 i will sit down with 5 billz.

everytime i see one of these retards sit down at a 3/6 game with $100, $60, even $30, i just can't help but laugh at these idiots.

[27offsooot]

I think that it depends on whether you can re-buy at the table and just put cash on the table b/f the hand. I've only been to a B+M three times and played 2/4, then 3/6, and then 6/12, so I'm sure there are many more experienced players. It always seems that people under-buy and I will usually follow suit b/c i would rather just fit in and not come off as a prick who buys in for too much. I don't think that it usually matters and prefer to start off with an amenable table image and go from there. I would say 20-25 BB is fine. I bring 50 BB cash with me though.

[Onaflag]

The only right answer here is to see what everyone else is buying in for. Sure, a previous reply calls people retards for buying in for $100 at 3/6, but at the B&M where I play, you'd get some pretty funny looks if you bought in for 2 racks. Why do you want to stand out and be noticed?

I suppose you could waltz into a small California card room and demand 2 racks because you KNOW how to play poker, but I doubt you'd get much action. I also smile to myself when I see people pulling out and endless supply of $20 bills one at a time. They always lose it one at a time. I cannot speak for the larger card rooms with cages and 100 tables and a ten minute walk to reload, but if you're at a smaller one, don't stand out of the crowd.

Onaflag...........

[Shoe]

The most i'd buy in for at 3/6 is $100. I like to buy in with a smaller than average stack, because I normally win at the table, and I don't want people to notice that i've been winning (i.e, have a big stack) until I have already won a lot from them.

[Go Blue]

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everytime i see one of these retards sit down at a 3/6 game with $100, $60, even $30, i just can't help but laugh at these idiots.

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And what exactly is wrong with buying in with $100 at a 3/6 table? When I play, I think at least half of the table buys in for exactly that amount (from what I've seen anyway) and there always one or two people buying in for $200, and some guy playing for the first time buying in for them minimum 5 big bets hoping to get lucky.

[Evan]

<-------- 750 big bets is clearly ideal

[The Armchair]

The problem is that $100 is only 17 (not even) big bets, and a maximum of 12 big bets can go in on any hand (capped on every street, assuming no blind straddle). As going down a few big bets on blinds, miss flops, and unmaterialized draws is possible if not expected, you risk going under 12 easily.

It'd be awful to be under 12 big when you can win one of those pots. And it is better to look a bit odd for buying in for $150 (which is 25 BB) than it is to look compulsive as you rebuy up to 12 BB every time you go under.

[neotope]

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general rule is to buy in for at least 30bb's. 3/6 i buy in for $200(its convienient), 4/8 $300, and when i hit that 8/16 i will sit down with 5 billz.

everytime i see one of these retards sit down at a 3/6 game with $100, $60, even $30, i just can't help but laugh at these idiots.

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I always buy-in with $100 in a 3/6 game but of course I have another hundred in cash to back it up. Buying in for $200 would help me get a better start on my pyramid but it is not really needed.

I think the key is having enough money in both chips and cash. So if you follow the 30BB rule then make sure you have chips and cash that add up to 30BB, you do not necessarily need all chips.

[JoshuaD]

Oh wow, 300$ is a little much for 3/6?

[edtost]

i'd want at least 300 on me for a session, but having more than 200 in chips is unnecessary.

[BUD]

I buy in for $ 200 ( 100 in whites and 100 in red). then i always keep a black in my pocket and put it under my stack in case someone has a larger stack. There are a number of reasons for this, but the number one reason, is they allow unlimited raises when the hand gets heads up where i play. The first time I had the chance to get a guys whole $275 i only had $150 to work with. I was kicking myself for not thinking. A $125 mistake is huuuuuuge @ 3/6. The next time i got the opportunity i raked in a $450 pot @ 3/6, anything under my $300 stack I had would have cost me proportionately. the hardest things for me to take in poker are my own dumb mistakes, and not making $ b/c i don't put it out on the table is a real dumb one for me.
bud

[sfer]

In games without chiprunners, buying short and/or having lots of cash on the table so that you force the dealer to make change is hugely annoying. So is walking to the cage to rebuy.

Just more evidence that California understands how to run poker rooms.

[lighterjobs]

i've never played 3/6, just 4/8, and the standard buy in for that table would be about $100.

[GuyOnTilt]

I always buy in 2 racks in limit games and rebuy another 2 if I get down close to 1. I'm thinking of changing my initial buy to 3 racks though. As a rule, I bring 6 to 8 racks worth of cash or large chips with me to the cardroom.

GoT

[GuyOnTilt]

<-------- 750 big bets is clearly ideal

Don't be deceived by the apparent height of that chip stack relative to Evan.

GoT

[SpaceAce]

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everytime i see one of these retards sit down at a 3/6 game with $100, $60, even $30, i just can't help but laugh at these idiots.

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When I play $3/$6, I usually sit down with one rack. If you think I'm an idiot, come take my money. I plan to be at the Commerce (most likely) tomorrow/Monday.

SpaceAce

[jzpiano14]

Any reason why so many GoT?

[Evan]

He needs every last one.
EDIT: real answer is that 2 racks is 25 bets is a 4 chip/8 chip game.

[DesertCat]

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everytime i see one of these retards sit down at a 3/6 game with $100, $60, even $30, i just can't help but laugh at these idiots.

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And what exactly is wrong with buying in with $100 at a 3/6 table?

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ClarkMeister once chided me for not sitting down with all of my whole roll. There are several advantages to having all your chips out at the table, it's more intimidating, and you feel more confident, which helps you play more aggressively (better). As well as the benefit when heads up and there is no cap on reraising.

[GuyOnTilt]

Any reason why so many GoT?

If you're referring to my buyin and reloads, I don't think it's very much. I play almost exclusively 4 chip/8 chip games so 2 racks is only 25 BB's. When i get down close to 15 bets, I reoad. If you're referring to how much I bring with me to cardrooms, 75-100 BB's isn't really all that much either. Just last weekend I had a minus 5 rack swing during a session at 40/80 which is $5k. It just happens. And when it does, I want to be able to keep playing if I feel like continuing, so I try to bring 75-100 BB's in cash or chips whenever I play.

GoT

[xxxxx]

I buy a rack of whites for $3-$6. If I lose it, it is time to go home. There will be poker another day. Either the table is tougher than usual or I had a couple of bad beats and am on tilt. Either way, it is time to go home.

[Evan]

If you are playing for fun that's cool. If you are playing to try to make money that is an awful idea.

[Mike Gallo]

I prefer to buy in for at least 6 stacks. Usually 5 stacks of red and 1 stack of (25)green.

This translates into $1000.

If I played in a $2-$4 game, I would buy 10 racks of white /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Stack size represents strength. I like to have a big stack, when it goes down, I reload. Its all about building the pyramid

[Go Blue]

I think the problem with having too big of a stack is that your play becomes too loose, especially in limit. If you really have hundreds of dollars on the table at a 2/4 game, you'd probably start calling too much and see way too many flops...because after all, what's $2 more compared to the hundreds you have in front of you, right? I could be wrong, but that's part of the reason as to why I only buyin for around 17 BBs ($100 at 3/6). Where I play, there is no unlimited heads up raising, so I don't think it matters if you don't buy in for THAT much. Buying in for too little, of course, is a bad move for the obvious reasons. In that case, I do laugh at someone buying in for $30 at 3/6.

[Mike Gallo]

I think the problem with having too big of a stack is that your play becomes too loose, especially in limit.

I have never encountered this problem. Most posters who have played with me claim I play too tight, or very tight.

[xxxxx]

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If you are playing for fun that's cool. If you are playing to try to make money that is an awful idea.

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If you are playing to make money, you shouldn't be playing $3-$6 B&M in the first place.

[ropey]

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There are several advantages to having all your chips out at the table, it's more intimidating, and you feel more confident, which helps you play more aggressively (better).

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I actually go after you idiots who buy in for way too much. If you need more chips to play better and feel more confident, you ought to check the size of your wang. Whether $100 or $500 sitting in front of you, you should be playing exactly the same.

-ropey

[Evan]

Yea, what a bunch of idiots. Um...don't look left.

[scrub]

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My $100 with $4,000 in paper behind next to you was cooler.

scrub

[Evan]

My peen is longer.

[MtDon]

"I always buy-in with $100 in a 3/6 game but of course I have another hundred in cash to back it up. Buying in for $200 would help me get a better start on my pyramid but it is not really needed."


Do you have the cash on the table and does is it in play? If so, that's the same as buying in for $200, except for the possible impression on other players.

Where I usually play, you can't play cash. You have to buy chips.

[antifish225]

In general:
5-10: 300
10-20: 500M
15-30: 850M
20-40: 1000-1200