NL - after leaving a table in profit, can't buyin for less

[The Bloke]

Hi all,

Cryptologic has an annoying 'feature' whereby, if you leave a table in profit, and then return to that table within 30 mins, you can only buy-in for the amount you had when you left the table.

i.e. : I have £100 in my account, and I buy in to a NL Table A for £100. After a while I have £200, and I want to now multi-table. I leave Table A, and join TAble B, buying in for £100. Now I try to rejoin Table A - but it won't let me, cos I can only buy-in for the £200 I had when I left, but there's now only £100 left in my account.

I emailed support and was told:
[ QUOTE ]
Please be advised this is not a "bug" in the system but simply a
measure in place to stop people leaving the table cashing in those
winnings then immediately returning to the table with less than what
they had.

This kind of activity is not considered good poker etiquette and is
not something that is encouraged within our poker room. The system
will ensure that you either come back to the table with the same
amount of chips that you left with or comeback to the table at least
30 minutes after you left.

[/ QUOTE ]

My questions are - is this common on other sites, and what do people think of this rule?

I find it anoying - I can't see how it's that rude to make a profit then cash it in. Sure it means people can't win that from me - but if I really wanted to protect it, I'd just leave that table. It prevents me from re-allocating funds between my tables, without depositing more funds.


Tom

[istewart]

They have it on Stars.

[iceman5]

Thats the rule in every casino Ive ever been in and the rule at most online poker rooms.

A good player doesnt want to leave with profits (unless you are leaving for other reasons obviously). You should be using your stack to your advantage, not being afraid to lose it back.

[deacsoft]

This is very standard almost everywhere.

[The Bloke]

Yeah - I don't give up my big stack normally!

But sometimes I regard it to be more +EV to forfit some of a big stack so that I can use it to open up another table. Particularly if the big stack is very large - not a huge benefit to having £300 when everyone else has £100 or less.

Not much I can do tho by the sounds of it!

[jar]

Will it let you join two completely different tables? I'd think that it would, but I don't know as I only play limit online, and you can't multitable live.

[Piers]

What’s really irritating is when they not only insist you return with exactly the same amount, but don’t tell you what it is /images/graemlins/mad.gif

So you have to buy in for exactly $217.73, so you first try 200, then 250, then 217. While all the time you keep timing out on other tables /images/graemlins/mad.gif The you get wise and write 217.73 down on a bit of paper, end after entering 21773 and being told you don’t have enough money you eventually get it correct. Phew! I am thinking dobrosoft and prima, both NL & limit.

Wouldn’t it be nice if it entered the only amount that you can join the table with as a default?

[TomCollins]

Quit being a ratholer. Ratholing is weak. Maybe you should stick to limit.

[wegs the wegs]

This feature is everywhere. Any site that doesn't do this should be shut down.

Think about it, without this handy rule everytime a player won a big hand they would sit up, bank it, then sit back down with the original buy-in. Or in a live game, instead of stacking chips in front of them they pocket the chips. Newbies play not to lose.

[krazyace5]

not sure if you can do this at all party skins but I have seen it done at PokerNow.

[The Bloke]

Yeah it will - unfortunately there's only a handful of full ring tables at the limit I play, and often only 2 have players on them.

[The Bloke]

It does on Cryptologic, fortunately!

[Freakin]

[ QUOTE ]
Yeah - I don't give up my big stack normally!

But sometimes I regard it to be more +EV to forfit some of a big stack so that I can use it to open up another table. Particularly if the big stack is very large - not a huge benefit to having £300 when everyone else has £100 or less.

Not much I can do tho by the sounds of it!

[/ QUOTE ]

You're not playing with a big enough bankroll for the games you're playing. If this is truly your reason, and you're bring your whole bankroll on to the table when you play, then you've got bigger problems then you're reporting here.

Freakin

[Zetack]

30 minutes seems like a long time to keep you from sitting back down with less. I'd make it 5 minutes on an online site.

I did read somebody telling about at a B&M where an uberfish was playing, his gf or wife came by and wanted to play at a small limit table. He started to give her some of his chips, the table raised a fuss about taking some of his chips off the table, so Mr. Uber-fish got up and left. Smart, very smart.

I'd also point out that when you toke the dealer or tip the waitress with chips at a B&M you are taking chips off the table...but nobody complains about that.

--Zetack

[Freakin]

Quite different. You aren't pocketing chips so that they are not at risk. Taking chips off the table to keep them out of play is, and should be, banned at any and all casinos.

Freakin

[AncientPC]

Actually if you buy in for $80, play one hand, leave, and sit back down it forces you to buy in at $100.