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fluxrad
02-18-2005, 05:49 PM
No reads on the table. But these games are usually loose/passive.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Final Pot: 11.50 BB

tiltaholic
02-18-2005, 05:56 PM
i think this looks ok.
what specifically bothered you about this hand?

IsaacW
02-18-2005, 06:00 PM
3bet the flop or call the flop raise and check/raise a non-/images/graemlins/club.gif turn if you think someone will bet again. On the turn, the board is about as ragged as you could ever hope for, so it's a perfect chance to make some money with a TP3rdK hand.

Turn and river are played very weakly IMO, with the obvious draw (/images/graemlins/club.gif) not coming in and the flop aggressor stopping on the turn.

_bustedflush_
02-18-2005, 06:00 PM
I think this is worth a reraise on flop. He may have hit some raggedy two pair. If he's betting top pair, you probably have him outkicked. Bet out turn if he calls; call down if he caps.

Reef
02-18-2005, 06:02 PM
I immediately put BB on a flush draw by his turn play. At least c/r the turn.

3 betting the flop is fine too

fluxrad
02-18-2005, 06:04 PM
I felt I was playing the flop and turn a little weak.

tiltaholic
02-18-2005, 06:07 PM
bleh.
i think we're drawing on the turn against MP. MP calling 2-cold on the flop and betting the turn suggest kings aren't best here. so i'd be reluctant to CR the turn only to have BB hit his flush on the river (he looks to be on the flush draw as others have pointed out)

but a flop 3-bet is ok by me too. in the complete absence of reads i'd lean towards not pushing with TPMK

chipolino
02-18-2005, 06:28 PM
I'm more inclined to go with a raise on the turn than 3-betting the flop.

Reasons:
1. I don't think 3-betting the flop will do anything here, BB and MP1 are most likely to call anyways.

2. Raising the turn might make the BB blind fold(he already showed weakness by checking) when faced with 2 big bets. If reraised by MP1 your KK is probably no good. I might even fold to a reraise. If MP1 just calls, check the river. If MP1 bets then call. But he might even just check fearing a reraise again.

Tell me what you guys think.

charlie_t_jr
02-18-2005, 07:29 PM
I like the flop bet and checking to the BB on the turn. When the BB checks and MP1 bets, I would think about a c/r here to make BB face two....but if MP1 3-bets...?