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Shammu
02-18-2005, 01:54 PM
Hello all, I am not an online player, I just play tournaments at casinos. Yesterday I was at the final table, vey good chip stack ( maybe secons), I was BB, already in for 3000, the guy next to me goes all in for 5000, I have about 25,000, everyone folded, it's back to me. I said I'm calling without looking at my cards, just an extra 2000 to me and a chance to knock him out of the tournament, he reveals his cards, AK, I revealed them J2, I ended up flopping a J and then a 2 on the river and he was pissed and left. I felt like an A-hole, do you think what I did was not cool, or I made the right decision?

Caruso329
02-18-2005, 02:01 PM
With a chance to knock a player out for only 2k more after you have 3k in there I would call with any two as well. This would get better results if posted in the Multi-table Tournament or 1-table Tournament forum though. Welcome to the board! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Messy Harry
02-18-2005, 02:02 PM
Your play of the hand was fine. Don't sweat it.

Greg J
02-18-2005, 02:15 PM
Not being a jerk, just FYI since you are new: this question should go in the MTT forum.

Welcome to the forums. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

FWIW: I play the same. 9.5:2 odds (by my quick calculation) and a chance to knock out an opponent is a relatively rare "any 2 will do" scenario.

7ontheline
02-18-2005, 02:29 PM
Preflop you're about a 7:3 dog - you're definitely getting odds to call with so much money in already and a chance to knock a guy out. You would practically have odds to call anything unless he showed you AA. The guy was pissed he lost, but that's his problem. Good play.

Isn't Shamu spelled with 1 m? Unless you're not the whale. . .

pzhon
02-18-2005, 02:48 PM
Despite what many people say, it is not worth much to knock a player out, even at the final table. Every player remaining benefits if you win, but you pay 100% of the cost whether you win or lose.

It's still right to call. You expect to be behind, but not by a huge amount. Your opponent would have had to post a big blind of more than half of his stack next hand if he folded, so his push should not represent much strength. J2o wins 44% (http://gocee.com/poker/HE_Value.htm) against a random hand, so suppose you win 35% here. If you call for 2000, you expect to get back 35% of the pot of 11500, 4025, so calling is better by about 2000 chips. Chip value is not perfectly linear, but 2000 chips is a lot. This is an easy call.

Cleveland Guy
02-18-2005, 02:48 PM
The guy should be more pissed that he got down to a point where he had 0 fold equity.

I had the reverse happen to me last night.

Folded to me on the button with KQs. I raise to 500. BB only has 115 left after posting his 150 Blind. He calls my raise blind and flips over a J2o.

He hits a J on the flop - and I don't improve.

It was a situation where he was pot committed to call - no matter his cards - just like you were. This is a very common situation and you played it fine.

Shammu
02-18-2005, 02:58 PM
Thank you all, I thought I made the right decesion, I was worried more about calling without looking at my cards and whether this was looked at in a negative was, I have my table image, you know /images/graemlins/smile.gif

pryor15
02-18-2005, 07:30 PM
i had a guy go all in blind on me the other day and i called since it wasn't much to me (i forget the numbers). My Q4s hits the Q on the turn and he flips over KK to win. He ended up winning the whole thing.