nevada jacks chips are ceramic, right?

[obeythekitten]

interested in picking up a 500 piece set of nevade jacks "desert sands" chips...already ordered a 5 piece sample from 5star and waiting on them to arrive...these are esentially a generic version of a chipco, correct?

[Lumpy]

Same type, but not made by Chipco.

[obeythekitten]

well my question was pretty much any diffrences in quality between these and "real" ceramic chipcos

[Fins]

SHORT - YES

LONGER - I think "another manufacture of" is better than "generic". My understanding is they will have a different surface finish than Chipco typically offers for home use... usually described as slightly rougher or a linen type finish. Also, they won't have the "white outer ring" that you typically see/associate on Chipcos (they do this for wear) where as the DS has a rougher surface which helps protect from wear... I think the NJ rolling edges look better as the white ring detracts from the chip IMO.

- Fins

[TenPercenter]

Honestly, I think they are both great quality. They are made to close tolerances, and I rarely see any defects or bad prints.

The main difference is, the face of a Chipco is much smoother. The NJ type has a more pronounced cross hatch. This makes the NJ graphics just a tad blurry compared to the Chipco linen finish. But it's hard to beat the price for the NJ's! (These are also the makers of the Desert Sands and Mardi Gras, both great chips).

Ten

[obeythekitten]

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These are also the makers of the Desert Sands

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these are actually the ones i plan on buying

[TenPercenter]

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These are also the makers of the Desert Sands

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these are actually the ones i plan on buying

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Are you going to do the customized ones, or just the stock ones? Either way, great chips.

Ten

[obeythekitten]

stock desert sands...

i think i'm in the minority on this one but i really prefer having chips that look like they came from an actual casino, and from what i can tell these are the closest things on the market without making your own labels for nexgens

[ott]

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The main difference is, the face of a Chipco is much smoother. The NJ type has a more pronounced cross hatch. This makes the NJ graphics just a tad blurry compared to the Chipco linen finish. But it's hard to beat the price for the NJ's! (These are also the makers of the Desert Sands and Mardi Gras, both great chips).

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My Lone Star Casino chipcos have a much "rougher" linen surface than the Desert Sands. I don't see Chipco doing too much linen finish chips these days.

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[ott]

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stock desert sands...

i think i'm in the minority on this one but i really prefer having chips that look like they came from an actual casino, and from what i can tell these are the closest things on the market without making your own labels for nexgens

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If you need a set of what I have (Lone Star Casino) Chipcos, I can get these to you for about $0.85/chip. The downside of these actual casino chips is that only the $1, $5, $25, $100 and $500 denominations. I thought about getting Chipcos to make a couple other denoms to make the Lone Star Casino chips a bit more flexible.

[obeythekitten]

well the denoms i plan on getting are

200 - $25

200 - $100

75 - $500

25 - $1000

i think itd work well for a one or two table tournament structure where players start with $2500 and blinds start at $25/$50

[Mars357]

Where did you get the Lone Star Casino chips? Is that custom set or can you get them someplace?

I've never seen them and I really like them

[TwinTowers]

With the Nevada Jacks at 50 cents a chip, this seems like the best deal around. That even includes free shipping (if you pay full price for the case and cards).

Tey told me I could get over 600 chips w/no case for 50 per chip, but would have to pay for shipping. Still a great deal.

[ott]

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Where did you get the Lone Star Casino chips? Is that custom set or can you get them someplace?

I've never seen them and I really like them

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They are real casino chips. I bought them from someone who bought the entire lot of chips after the Casino closed after 6 months in operation back in '96. If you're interested in getting some, pm me and I'll send you his email. They'll probably cost you about $0.85/chip in quantity.

[bonanz]

the desert sands are much nicer than chipco IMO.

the texture makes all the difference. I played a few hands of blackjack at the luxor before i saw blueman this past weekend and was reminded how much i dislike chipcos, especially once they get broken in and get that ugly white ring.

the casions that use the BG chips that are similar to the desert sands NJ's seem to hold up much better than chipcos...

just my opinion, i know there are a lot of chipco fans/owners here, not intended to offend

[ott]

The thing is that Casino Chipcos are used 24/7/365. I doubt you'll get that much home use to see that white ring from a worn Chipco for a long long time.

[tomb1]

Here's my opinion on ceramics, after playing with all the samples in front of me, plus live casino chips from various places.

Bottom line: either Chipcos or NJs are excellent ceramic chips. And there are some good values out there now.

Chipco PRO:
- they create the best graphics of any chip available to consumers. They have a choice of smooth finishes that allows the printing to be very sharp. No offense to anyone else's design, but the Egyptians are the best looking chips ever made IMHO.
- the finish feels really classy. At first I liked the Chipco finish better than NJs.
- the edges can be printed with edge spots, other shapes, and/or text to make them look very cool
- they have nice square edges that will hold their shape well
- you can get great customization from Chipco

Chipco CON:
- with heavy casino use, Chipcos wear very poorly. They get very worn around the rim (on the face near the edge) and the graphics get dull. I doubt this would happen with home use, but the bottom line is that the best these chips will look is the day you receive them.
- the printing on the edge won't line up with any printing on the face of the chip, so the "edge spots" on the Crystal Oysters or Classics (for example) will never look like a clay edge spots molded into the chip.

Nevada Jacks PRO: (NJ Skulls, Desert Sands, Mardi Gras)
- The finish on these chips is more "rough" than the smoother Chipcos. If you scrath your fingernail across it, you'll feel a definite cross-hatching pattern. To me, this allows better stacking and is a nicer feel, even though at first it didn't feel as good as Chipcos.
- Also allow good graphics, with edge-to-edge printing. There are some great chip designs available.
- The edge printing is also great, in fact some of these chips (Desert Sands) print a "marbleized" pattern on the edge. (But you may not like this... it's a matter of personal taste.)
- the edges are more rounded, like a broken-in clay chip. They'll still stand on edge, but aren't as square as the Chipcos.

Nevada Jacks CON:
- The rougher finish reduces the printing quality a little bit. The pictures aren't quite as sharp and the colors are duller or more blended-in than Chipco.
- edge printing also does not line up with the face
- I don't know how these would wear, since I've never seen them with constant casino use. But with their finish, I think they would hold up at least as well as Chipcos.

But take all this with a grain of salt, cause I'm really a clay chips guy....

- - tomb1
New Orleans
Birthplace of Poker

[slamdunkpro]

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these are esentially a generic version of a chipco, correct

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Nope - Chipco prints directly on the ceramic chip surface. Nevada Jack used a different process (which I can't go into) to provide a more durable and playable surface.

Disclaimer - NJ is a friend of mine so I'm slightly biased.

[TenPercenter]

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these are esentially a generic version of a chipco, correct

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Nope - Chipco prints directly on the ceramic chip surface. Nevada Jack used a different process (which I can't go into) to provide a more durable and playable surface.

Disclaimer - NJ is a friend of mine so I'm slightly biased.

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Since you're a friend, you also know that he doesn't actually manufacture his clays OR his ceramics right? Thery're both outsourced from what little I know...

Ten