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Big John D
02-17-2005, 04:48 PM
I'm a mediocre to good PP 2/4 player. I'm going to Vegas in 2 weeks. I was planning on playing at the Mirage 3/6. Are there other levels or venues I should consider?

I know this question kinda sucks. But I'm really curious, and I couldn't find anything using search.

What Vegas games compare to PP 2/4?

Bluffoon
02-17-2005, 04:59 PM
I am a low limit player and I just got back from vegas.

The 3/6 and the 6/12 at the mirage were plenty soft. Both are very loose. The 3/6 was very passive. The 6/12 was a little more aggressive but nothing that should cause a problem. Mandalay Bay 4/8 was a great game and the nicest room by far. I didn't play at the temporary room on the floor at the Bellagio. By far the softest game I played was the Excaliber 2/6 spread limit game.

The Flamingo and the Luxor had small rooms with low limit games but I didn't try them out.

If you can beat the party 2/4 none of those games should give you a problem. Have a great trip.

edtost
02-17-2005, 05:03 PM
if vegas is anything like AC, a party 2/4 player would be fine at a 6/12ish game and very likely still +ev at a 10/20.

Luv2DriveTT
02-17-2005, 06:10 PM
As per the reccomendation of the weely group that meets at the Binion's coffe shop on Wednesdays (get there at 2PM... its a must do while in Vegas) it seems that they all prefer the Excaliber spread limit 1-3 game. Other prefered options at that level include Alladin (say hi to Al_Cappone, he works there) Binions and The Nugget.

PS: Vegas has the most passive players you will find anywhere.

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joeboe2001
02-17-2005, 06:24 PM
Only played twice in Las Vegas. Can't speak for the quality of their other games, but WSOP Satellites at Binion's were a blast, though not profitable. Poker room was nicely sequestered away from other casino action, nice and clean (they had just reopened) and best service anywhere in Vegas in their coffee shop.

Poker room at Orleans was a total drag, though I only played 1-2 there. So was the rest of the place from what I could see.

Looking forward to checking out these passive tables (I probably didn't know what that meant last time I was there!) on my next visit!

Big Country
02-17-2005, 07:54 PM
I too am a Party 2/4 player and I have found the Excalibur 2-6 spread game ot be very profitable.

The 4/8 at bellagio was good to me, but as we usually stay at the Tropicana, Excalibur is very close and I just enjoy the atmosphere there.

Photoc
02-17-2005, 08:13 PM
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Other prefered options at that level include Alladin (say hi to Al_Cappone, he works there)

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What am I...chop liver? LOL Yes, I just started there, so stop on in. Room keeps getting better.

TomCollins
02-17-2005, 09:52 PM
Your biggest stumbling block will be your own tolerance to losses. If losing $200 makes you feel terrible, or gets you off your game, 10/20 is not for you. I'd recommend starting small to get a feel for the games, and move up to 6/12 as soon as you feel comfortable.

Luv2DriveTT
02-17-2005, 10:16 PM
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Other prefered options at that level include Alladin (say hi to Al_Cappone, he works there)

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What am I...chop liver? LOL Yes, I just started there, so stop on in. Room keeps getting better.

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Um, finely minced filet? lol....

Many posters here will know Al because his name is easy to remember, and his photo rocks. We gotta work on making your on-line personality more visible Photoc /images/graemlins/blush.gif

PS: Rich rules if you wanna skip playing poker, he will teach you how to play a mean game of craps!

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whiskeytown
02-17-2005, 10:19 PM
I gotta admit, the fishies at the Imperial Palace were mighty tasty....

RB

SofaCoach
02-17-2005, 10:32 PM
I too play mostly PP 2/4 and beat the game fairly consistently. Anyway, I was in Vegas for a week last month and (almost)all the games I played in were far softer than Party 2-4. I played the following:

Monte Carlo 2-4: Loose and passive (i loved the room)
Monte Carlo 4-8: a little tighter and more aggressive than the 2-4 but still easier than PP 2-4.

Imperial Palace 2-4 and 3-6: By far the worst players I encountered. Routinely saw 7-8 to each flop.

Rio 3-6: Only played once for about 3 hours. The table was loose, aggressive, and profitable.

Mandalay Bay 4-8: I played ALOT here. Mostly loose and passive with a few LAG's sprinkled here and there. Great room, with good eye candy nearby.

Mirage 3-6: The only tight game I sat in, but it was just one game for a couple hours.

Bellagio: I did not play here (believe it or not). Went in once, there was a 30-45 minute wait for 4-8 and I didn't like the vibe of the room. Too many people, packed in too tightly.

As I mentioned, and the posters above said, all of these games were easy for a winner at PP 2-4. Overall I played about 50 hours and made $600. But since this was my first B&M trip I was a little nervous and stayed at the smaller stakes. Next time (september) I will try some higher stakes, probably Bellagio 8-16 or Mirage 10-20.

Good luck, let us know how you do.

SinCityGuy
02-17-2005, 10:52 PM
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I'm a mediocre to good PP 2/4 player. I'm going to Vegas in 2 weeks. I was planning on playing at the Mirage 3/6.

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The skill level of the Mirage 3/6 is equal to .01/.02 online.

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What Vegas games compare to PP 2/4?

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The 10/20 Mirage game, and I'm not being funny.

gvibes
02-18-2005, 03:12 PM
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The 10/20 Mirage game, and I'm not being funny.

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When I first opened this thread, I was expecting a lot more 8/16 -> 10/20 recommendations.

Ed S.
02-18-2005, 04:16 PM
I was in Vegas last August for the first time and thats what I played mainly. 2-4 and 3-6 peppered a little bit. And played one session of 4-8 at the Bellagio. Couldn't leave vegas with out playing at the Bellagio Anyways hope this helps. One thing to Note. I hear just about all the major strip Casino's have poker now so I don't know about what they have. I'll just tell you what I experienced.

3-6 Mirage is a pretty good game.

The best 2-4 action anywhere I saw was at the Sahara. Just some incredible action.

The NL when they spread it after the tournaments they run is also very good as well at the Sahara. Usually 100 or 200 NL.

Gold Spike has some decent 2-4 games downtown.

Good tournament games and decent ring games at The Orleans Casino.

Excalibur has some sweet games too for NL and spread Limit. I would highly recomend the Excalibur as well.

I was only able to play poker at 11 casino's while I was there but I had a great time and the one's I mentioned above stuck out in my mind.

Good Luck in Vegas.

Ed S.

Luv2DriveTT
02-18-2005, 04:21 PM
SinCityGuy has more experiance than I have in Vegas, but if you like passive tables then the Bellagio 8/16 is the way to go. The Mirage 10/20 had fewer to the flop in my very limited experiance, hence smaller pots.

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Ed S.
02-18-2005, 04:36 PM
I made a mistake.

Instead of Gold Spike, I meant The Golden Nugget right across from Binions.


Ed S.