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btspider

02-17-2005, 02:42 PM

Villian is 22/17 after only 18 hands. AF is non-representative yet. So he seems selective.

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Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
3 folds, MP1 calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, 1 fold, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 bets, Hero raises, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

Anyone want to 3-bet this?

River: (8.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP1 bets, Hero calls.

Anyone want to fold this? Raise?

Final Pot: 10.50 BB
Main Pot: 10.50 BB, between Hero and MP1.

Entity

02-17-2005, 02:43 PM

Raise preflop.

Flop is good, and I doubt he's playing 55/66 or A6/A7 this way, so I'd probably call the turn and fold the river.

Rob

DeadManJay

02-17-2005, 02:44 PM

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Turn: (4.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

Anyone want to 3-bet this?

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The fact that he didn't 3-bet the flop then check-raised the turn makes me almost positive that he is on a flush. I'm just calling the turn here.

JordanIB

02-17-2005, 02:45 PM

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MP1 checks, Hero bets, MP1 raises, Hero calls.

Anyone want to 3-bet this?

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I might consider it. Often A6 or A7 will play like this.

droolie

02-17-2005, 02:47 PM

I wanna fold the river. The turn C/R has me very worried villian has at least a str8. The fourth spade is the clincher for me. I don't think we're good 10% of the time.

btspider

02-17-2005, 02:48 PM

yeah, PF is that in between spot. where do you draw the line? do you fold 22-55? raise 66+? or limp 22-66? limp in MP2?

that said, when i hit call, i figured it was a raise /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I doubt he's playing 55/66 or A6/A7 this way, so I'd probably call the turn and fold the river.

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getting 9:1 sure?

Entity

02-17-2005, 02:50 PM

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yeah, PF is that in between spot. where do you draw the line? do you fold 22-55? raise 66+? or limp 22-66? limp in MP2?

that said, when i hit call, i figured it was a raise /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I doubt he's playing 55/66 or A6/A7 this way, so I'd probably call the turn and fold the river.

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getting 9:1 sure?

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I raise 77+ here easily. I'd probably limp with 55-66 and fold 22-44 against the player you described, but with your limited reads, I might raise 55+.

77 should be a pretty easy raise though.

Rob

VTDuffman

02-17-2005, 03:06 PM

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yeah, PF is that in between spot. where do you draw the line? do you fold 22-55? raise 66+? or limp 22-66? limp in MP2?

that said, when i hit call, i figured it was a raise /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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I doubt he's playing 55/66 or A6/A7 this way, so I'd probably call the turn and fold the river.

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getting 9:1 sure?

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I'm not 90% sure here that he has the flush. I've seen a turned two pair played this way often enough. Call the turn, Check/call the River.

I'm willing to bet Villan doesn't even have 2 pair, probably A4o or something.

btspider

02-17-2005, 09:06 PM

results:
MP1 tables A7 and I do a happy dance.