Probabilities v. Fundamental Standards: Incorporation and Scrutiny

[the alex]

I moderate a forum and raised a couple of questions asking how people approach situations where their reads are very important to properly calculate their odds.

Part I:
http://pokerforums.org/showthread.php?p=17643#post17643

Part II: How much is really in the pot for you to win?
http://pokerforums.org/showthread.php?t=1877

My opinions are very vague in both of these areas as I understand many different arguments, but can't figure which makes more sense. Neither are really provable. Yeah, you can calculate how likely it is for someone have a flush when 3 suited cards are on the board, but you could have odds that they don't to play and be so wrong when the evidence was there to see.

Take a peek and please add here or on PF.org to the discussion. I would really like to hear some voices on this subject[s].

Thanks.