Poker Royale Battle of the Sexes

[benfranklin]

For what it's worth, I just saw a promo for this. It will be on GSN (the Game Show Network) Friday at 9PM eastern. I've never watched this, so I have no idea of its value. I just caught the promo, but I think the players shown for this show were Evelyn Ng, Jennifer Harman, Clonie Gowen, Chris Moneymaker, Layne Flack and Amir Vahedi. If nothing else, it's Friday night, so it would be fun to drink along with Layne while watching.

[tdarko]

yeah i hope he has one hand on his whiskey & coke and the other shoving in his chips /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[djcolts]

The announcers are horrible (not the analyst, Robert Williamson III - he does a good job when he gets to speak once in a while). It is Tom Leykis and Kennedy sniping back and forth throughout, and it simply gets old after 5 seconds, and annoying after 10 seconds.

[Dead]

This show could quite possibly be the worst poker show since celebrity poker.

The men vs women angle is really lame.

My favorite Poker Show is still the World Series of Poker main event. Nothing can beat it.

I can't wait for this year's to be on tv. But they need better announcers than Chad and the other dude.

I'd love to see Gabe Kaplan hosting it with someone like Norm MacDonald. That to me would be awesome.

[jojobinks]

it's better by far than celebrity poker showdown. you just have to learn to tune out the banter. the play is fine. if you could take the play of battle of the sexes, and phil gordon's analysis from cps, it would be a reasonable show.

[Texter]

One of that show's problems is the graphics they use...I have a hard time telling a spade from a club in their graphic of a player's hole cards. And the banter is awful.

[Daliman]

I guess Ng and Gowen are going to get a pass on their limited poker credentials as long as they are considered attractive. Neither of them has CLOSE to the results any of the other players in this do. I guess if Mimi Tran or Kathy Leibert were considered more attractive THEY'D be on these shows. I seriously doubt from their results thus far whether they are even winning tournament players.

A comparison of records;
Evelyn Ng
Las Vegas, NV


05-Jan-05 Bahamas $ 7,800 WPT Main Event - No Limit Hold'em 2005 PokerStars Caribbean Adventure, Paradise Island 22nd $ 17,300
11-Dec-04 United States $ 3,000 No Limit Hold'em
Five-Diamond World Poker Classic, Las Vegas 29th $ 7,180
11-Nov-04 United States $ 500 No Limit Hold'em
2004 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 48th $ 1,566
01-Oct-04 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em
2004 Plaza Ultimate Poker Challenge, Las Vegas 6th $ 1,300
12-Sep-04 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em
2004 Plaza Ultimate Poker Challenge, Las Vegas 7th $ 1,234
30-Apr-04 United States $ 1,500 No-Limit Hold'em
35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 24th $ 5,740
04-Sep-03 United States Main Event
WPT Ladies' Night, Los Angeles 2nd

Clonie Gowen

08-Nov-04 United States $ 200 No Limit Hold'em
2004 Fall Poker Round Up, Pendelton 17th $ 457
06-Nov-04 United States $ 200 Limit Hold'em
2004 Fall Poker Round Up, Pendelton 15th $ 619
03-Sep-04 Ireland € 5,710 Episode 5
The Gaming Club World Poker Championship (Pot Limit Hold'em), Dublin 16th
01-Sep-04 United States Ladies Night Out - WPT Invitational
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 6th
30-Jul-04 United States $ 300 Pot Limit Omaha
The Fourth Annual Jack Binion Mid-America Poker Classic, Tunica 11th $ 2,812
13-Mar-04 United States $ 350 No Limit Hold'em
2004 7th Annual Spring Poker Roundup, Pendelton 14th $ 1,118
04-Sep-03 United States Main Event
WPT Ladies' Night, Los Angeles 1st $ 25,000
10-Aug-03 United States $ 2,000 Main Event - No Limit Hold'em
The Third Jack Binion Mid-America Poker Classic, Tunica 16th $ 3,825
19-Oct-02 Costa Rica $ 500 No Limit Hold'em - WPT
Costa Rica Classic, San Jose 10th $ 3,410

Mimi Tran

16-Jan-05 United States $ 9,500 Championship Event - No Limit Hold'em
2005 WSOP Circuit Tournaments - Atlantic City, Atlantic City 4th $ 189,240
16-Dec-04 United States $ 25,000 Main Event Final
Heads Up Limit Hold'em Tournament, Las Vegas 3rd $ 48,500
26-Aug-04 United States $ 3,000 Mariani/Buss Open - 1/2 Hold 'Em & 1/2 Seven Card Stud
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 4th $ 12,665
22-Aug-04 United States $ 1,500 No Limit Hold'em - Final Day
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 11th $ 4,595
07-Feb-04 United States $ 1,500 Limit Hold'em
2004 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 21st $ 8,100
10-Nov-03 United States $ 2,000 Limit Hold'em
2003 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 6th $ 5,130
08-Nov-03 United States $ 1,000 Limit Hold'em
2003 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 5th $ 9,292
05-Sep-03 United States $ 300 Limit Hold'em
2003 Heavenly Hold'em, Los Angeles 12th $ 2,735
27-Apr-03 United States $ 2,500 Seven Card Stud
34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 2nd $ 47,700
26-Apr-03 United States $ 2,500 Limit Hold'em
34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 11th $ 7,220
11-May-02 United States $ 5,000 Limit Hold'em
33rd World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2002, Las Vegas 3rd $ 53,100
29-Apr-01 United States $ 3,000 Texas Hold'em (limit)
32nd World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2001, Las Vegas 10th $ 6,705
28-Apr-99 United States $ 2,500 Limit Hold'em
30th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 1999, Las Vegas 2nd $ 112,575
21-Apr-98 United States $ 2,000 Limit Hold'em
29th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 1998, Las Vegas 4th $ 69,720

Kathy Leibert

23-Jan-05 United States $ 200 Ladies Event - No Limit Hold'em
The Sixth Annual Jack Binion World Poker Open, Tunica 23rd $ 504
15-Jan-05 United States $ 200 Ladies No Limit Hold'em
2005 WSOP Circuit Tournaments - Atlantic City, Atlantic City 2nd $ 6,115
06-Nov-04 United States $ 2,000 Limit Hold'em
2004 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 4th $ 21,725
19-Oct-04 United States $ 10,000 The Doyle Brunson North American No Limit Hold'em Poker Championship
2004 Festa al Lago III Poker Tournament, Las Vegas 8th $ 48,000
08-Oct-04 United States $ 4,900 WPPA Championship of Poker No Limit Hold'em Championship - Final Day
WPPA Championship of Poker, Las Vegas 6th $ 17,285
06-Oct-04 United States $ 1,455 No Limit Hold'em Shootout
WPPA Championship of Poker, Las Vegas 2nd $ 7,190
10-Sep-04 United States $ 1,000 No Limit Hold'em
2004 Plaza Ultimate Poker Challenge, Las Vegas 1st $ 11,500
22-Aug-04 United States $ 1,000 Limit Hold'em
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 10th $ 2,145
20-Aug-04 United States $ 500 Pot Limit Hold 'Em
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 14th $ 1,165
18-Aug-04 United States $ 500 No Limit Hold'em
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 18th $ 1,900
06-Aug-04 United States $ 300 Pot Limit Hold'em
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 22nd $ 410
02-Aug-04 United States $ 300 No Limit Hold'em
2004 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 10th $ 1,790
09-Jul-04 United States $ 300 No Limit Hold'em
2004 Grand Slam of Poker Tournament III, Gardena 9th $ 2,560
01-Jul-04 United States $ 3,000 No Limit Hold'em
Festa al Lago II, Las Vegas 10th $ 4,496
15-Jun-04 United States $ 2,500 No Limit Hold'em
California State Poker Championship, Los Angeles 12th $ 4,200
11-Jun-04 United States $ 1,500 No Limit Hold'em Final Day
California State Poker Championship, Los Angeles 13th $ 3,925
07-Jun-04 United States $ 1,000 Pot Limit Hold'em
California State Poker Championship, Los Angeles 3rd $ 15,840
12-May-04 United States $ 1,500 No-Limit Hold'em
35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 56th $ 2,300
07-May-04 United States $ 1,500 Limit Hold'em Shootout
35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 1st $ 110,180
18-Mar-04 International $ 7,000 Limit Hold'em Championship Final Day
2004 - PartyPoker.com Million III Limit Hold'em, Caribbean 66th $ 2,500
12-Feb-04 United States $ 1,000 Pot Limit Omaha
2004 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 6th $ 5,985
07-Feb-04 United States $ 1,500 Limit Hold'em
2004 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 24th $ 8,100
31-Jan-04 United States $ 300 No Limit Hold'em
2004 L.A. Poker Classic, Los Angeles 15th $ 5,365
05-Nov-03 United States $ 500 Limit Hold'em
2003 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 24th $ 1,068
03-Nov-03 United States $ 500 Omaha Hi/Lo
2003 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 4th $ 4,749
01-Nov-03 United States $ 500 No Limit Hold'em
2003 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 3rd $ 23,355
03-Oct-03 United States $ 5,000 No Limit Hold'em - Main Event
2003 Four Queens Poker Classic, Las Vegas 4th $ 32,930
04-Sep-03 United States Main Event
WPT Ladies' Night, Los Angeles 5th
20-Aug-03 United States $ 300 Limit Hold'em
2003 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 7th $ 2,560
26-Jul-03 United States $ 500 Limit Hold'em Main Event
2003 Orleans Open, Las Vegas 3rd $ 13,240
24-Jun-03 United States $ 1,000 Omaha Hi/Lo
Festa al Lago, Las Vegas 8th $ 2,328
21-Jun-03 United States $ 5,000 No Limit Hold'em - Main Event
2003 California State Poker Championship, Los Angeles 10th $ 9,040
16-Jun-03 United States $ 500 Pot Limit Hold'em
2003 California State Poker Championship, Los Angeles 9th $ 2,540
01-May-03 United States $ 1,500 Limit Hold'em
34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 2nd $ 91,700
19-Apr-03 United States $ 2,000 No Limit Hold'em
34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 9th $ 12,160
16-Apr-03 United States $ 2,000 Limit Hold'em
34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 25th $ 4,700
17-Nov-02 United States $ 10,000 No Limit Hold'em - WPT
2002 World Poker Finals, Mashantucket 7th $ 35,600
11-Oct-02 Aruba No Limit Hold'em Main Event - WPT
Ultimate Bet Poker Classic, Palm Beach 3rd $ 8,000
31-Aug-02 United States $ 5,000 No Limit Hold'em Championship - WPT
2002 Legends of Poker, Los Angeles 6th $ 22,575
16-May-02 United States $ 3,000 No Limit Hold'em
33rd World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2002, Las Vegas 6th $ 34,740
17-Mar-02 International $ 8,000 Limit Hold'em - Final Results
Party Poker Million, Caribbean 1st $ 1,000,000
08-May-01 United States $ 3,000 Texas Hold'em (pot limit)
32nd World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2001, Las Vegas 16th $ 5,265
15-May-00 United States $ 10,000 World Championship No Limit Texas Hold'em
31st World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2000, Las Vegas 17th $ 39,120
11-May-98 United States $ 10,000 No Limit Hold'em World Championship
29th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 1998, Las Vegas 17th $ 30,000
10-May-98 United States $ 1,000 Women's 7-Card Stud
29th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 1998, Las Vegas 12th $ 1,500
08-May-97 United States $ 3,000 No Limit Hold'em
28th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 1997, Las Vegas 2nd $ 123,690
06-May-97 United States $ 3,000 Hold'em Pot Limit
28th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 1997, Las Vegas 18th $ 4,080


And for the inevitable people who say Moneymaker doesn't belong; comparative to his other opponents, not really, buthe IS the only one with THE bracelet here;

28-Sep-04 Aruba $ 6,000 No Limit Hold'em Final Day
2004 Ultimatebet.com Poker Classic, Palm Beach 18th $ 13,000
03-Sep-04 Ireland € 5,710 Episode 5
The Gaming Club World Poker Championship (Pot Limit Hold'em), Dublin 10th
03-Aug-04 United States $ 300 Pot Limit Hold'em
The Fourth Annual Jack Binion Mid-America Poker Classic, Tunica 3rd $ 10,239
19-May-04 United States $ 5,000 Pot Limit Omaha
35th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2004, Las Vegas 10th $ 21,000
03-Mar-04 United States $ 5,000 WPT No Limit Hold'em Championship Final Day
2004 - Bay 101 Shooting Star, San Jose 2nd $ 200,000
19-May-03 United States $ 10,000 World Championship Event
34th World Series of Poker (WSOP) 2003, Las Vegas 1st $ 2,500,000

P.S. These results come from the Hendon Mob website. They are not complete, but are likely the most complete available right now.

[Joboo]

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I guess if Mimi Tran or Kathy Leibert were considered more attractive THEY'D be on these shows.

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Not that I diasgree with your argument at all, but Kathy Leibert is on this show, just one of the three females not playing this particular week.

[TransientR]

Gabe Kaplan hosting with Norm McDonald?

I'd turn the sound of fast. McDonald is obnoxiously smug, IMO.

Frank

[ClaytonN]

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but he IS the only one with THE bracelet here

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Hrmm?

Harman has a bracelet in NL 2-7 lowball (and I think she has two, not sure) and Flack definitely has multiple bracelets.

[tylerdurden]

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but he IS the only one with THE bracelet here

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Hrmm?

Harman has a bracelet in NL 2-7 lowball (and I think she has two, not sure) and Flack definitely has multiple bracelets.

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When he said "THE bracelet," I assumed he meant a main event bracelet, but even that isn't true as Raymer is also involved in this farce.

[Daliman]

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but he IS the only one with THE bracelet here

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Hrmm?

Harman has a bracelet in NL 2-7 lowball (and I think she has two, not sure) and Flack definitely has multiple bracelets.

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When he said "THE bracelet," I assumed he meant a main event bracelet, but even that isn't true as Raymer is also involved in this farce.

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You are correct. Since I do not get GSN tho, I was not aware that there are other main event winners,(or even other players..) involved.

[tylerdurden]

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You are correct. Since I do not get GSN tho, I was not aware that there are other main event winners,(or even other players..) involved.

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Yes, it's EVEN WORSE than you thought! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[MrDannimal]

I believe that the format is there are 6 men and 6 women, and they each played 3 6-handed STTs (a total of 6 individual tourneys), each one with 3 men and 3 women. The top 3 point getters from each gender will play in a final 6-handed STT.

You got 6 for 1st, 5 for second, and so on (and each STT payed $20k for first and less for 2nd and so on).

The 6th prelim is this coming Friday.

I have no problem with the Men v. Women idea, because it's fairly obvious that the men and women are having some fun with it. The "color" is awful, though. Leykis is a dope and Kennedy is woefully equipped to spar with him and they BOTH try to hard to "champion" their side. Poor Robert is wasted as the play-by-play guy.

To date, the men have won all 5 prelims, although should a woman win the final that would mean nothing, I guess.

I think the women are:

Leibert, Harman, Gowen, Ng, Karina Jett, and Christy Gazes.

The men are:

Moneymaker, Raymer, Flack, Vahedi, Paul Wolfe, and Antonio Esfandiari.

So you have the 2 recent WSOP ME winners and lots of other bracelets (but no other ME winners).

[IronDragon1]

Has anyone else noticed how incredibly messed up Robert Williamson looks? Seriously, dude looks hepped up on goofballs.

[schmoe]

The funny thing is, this show has nothing to do with the battle of the sexes. If anything, its the exact opposite. To qualify for the final round, you need to do better than the players of your own gender. The other gender is almost irrelevant (not quite).

Once your in the final round, your in it for yourself. Does it really matter how the other two players of your gender did if you finish in 1st?

[djcolts]

Not if you finish in first, but if a member of your sex wins the finals, you win some extra money (not a lot, but some). I'm assuming that the "winning sex" means the winner of the finals - that wasn't 100% clear to me.

[webmonarch]

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This show could quite possibly be the worst poker show since celebrity poker. The men vs women angle is really lame.

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The show could be OK if, as you say, they just dropped the men v. women thing. It's contrived, been done, and annoying in one tidy little package.