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spentrent
02-16-2005, 06:37 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t785)
UTG (t785)
UTG+1 (t785)
UTG+2 (t870)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Hero (t790)
SB (t785)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t90</font>, SB calls t80, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t75, UTG+2 calls t75, CO calls t75.

Flop: (t462.50) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t125</font>, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls t125, CO calls t125, HERO???

Elektrik
02-16-2005, 06:55 AM
I raise more preflop. Maybe 125 - 150.

I push the flop.

You're only worried about 4 made hands here - T9, 33, 99, and TT, and this board could have numerous straight and or flush draws that the callers probably have. And you have the Ad, giving you a redraw to the flush as well. I push.

yellowjack
02-16-2005, 06:58 AM
Suck it up and push. Electrik is correct here with those few made hands -- and all of them would've raised SB to not allow for such a cheap turn card. So we are only fearful of SB for having any sort of hand, in which case he underbet.

ReDeYES88
02-16-2005, 10:08 AM
What are your options?

If you call, the turn will be 4 handed and t965 in the middle. Any /images/graemlins/diamond.gif (8) or non-/images/graemlins/diamond.gif 8-K (18) could reasonably have made trips, a straight, or a flush for someone. 26 out of 47 possible cards put you in an even tougher spot than you are in right now, and you STILL won't know where you are.
Call = no.

Fold? You probably have the best hand right now, unless someone hit two pair or a set. You have a few redraws against two pair, and if it's a set, you're almost dead. Likely? perhaps, but not very. You have t700 chips left and it's still really early. Some might argue that your edge is too small if the entire field sticks around until the end after some insane all-in calling spree, but I probably couldn't let this hand go right now. I'm greedy, and there are a lot of chips out there.
Fold = no.

Raise? You have ~t600 left, and you are goin' to have to bet at least half of that to have ANY chance of narrowing the field and getting rid of a draw or two. Except that all it takes is the SB calling that bet for the next two players to call along, still on their draws. Besides, that would leave you with only T300 left and a gigantic pot. If you are going to bet, it seems that there is only one bet to make. Let's just hope that a couple of those people drop out and we can narrow the field.

Push.

You can always fire up another table if you lose, and you are going to have a nice lead here if you don't.

spentrent
02-16-2005, 10:13 AM
Don't worry; I pushed. I just didn't want to be up against a flush draw and a straight draw from two different people. I would have considered folding if this were the first hand of the WSOP /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Turned out two of the villains called me; both were on straight draws: 78 an J8. Didn't expect those hands to stay in pre-flop...

gr8vertical
02-16-2005, 10:25 AM
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Didn't expect those hands to stay in pre-flop...

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Hey now, don't over estimate the subpar players on PP /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

spentrent
02-16-2005, 10:30 AM
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Didn't expect those hands to stay in pre-flop...

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Hey now, don't over estimate the subpar players on PP /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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And people think the 5s are any different from the 20s...