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Karak567
02-16-2005, 05:49 AM
I hit 250 on my bankroll today by grinding through 5.50s and I went up to 11s. I made my bankroll 280. I then dumped 6 11s in a row due to 4 bad beats and 2 lost coinflips.

Should I revert to 5.50s for good now and get to 300 next time?

Possible leak in my game?

Just variance?

I got really nervous after dumping 60-70 dollars tonight.

curtains
02-16-2005, 05:50 AM
If you are nervous you should go down a level yes IMO. Wait till you have 300 or maybe even 400, and then go for the 10s. Another method is to get to 300, and then to alternate playing 10s and 5s, or to play 2 5's for every 10 for a while.
Or you could just let it all ride on one 215, and if you lose go back to 5s and hope to get lucky /images/graemlins/smile.gif

SumZero
02-16-2005, 05:53 AM
You should move down. The key part is where you wrote

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I got really nervous after dumping 60-70 dollars tonight.

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That means you should move down so you aren't nervous. What is your ROI at the 5's? The bankroll rule of thumb of 30 buyins is based on being a ~25% ROI or better player. If you were a 10% ROI player at the 5's you may need a bigger than 30 cushion to go to the 11s than 330. That said if you don't get nervous and are happy to move down to the 5's any time your bankroll goes below $200 you may well be able to take your shots at the 11 early.

Pepsquad
02-16-2005, 05:55 AM
Given the nature of your losses, I'd give myself a $50 cushion before moving back down. You're at roughly $200 now, If you dip below $150, head back to the $5 grind. Then get back to $250 again before taking another shot at the 10's.

Good luck,

Pep.

Karak567
02-16-2005, 05:57 AM
I just started taking stats so I don't have a huge sample size.

Right now it's around 25 % yes, but I think you are right, I won't play my best if I'm nervous. Best to stick to 5.50s until I am comfortable.

Haha I thought about gambling on a 215 (just kidding), I had a friend that did that, he was out in the first hand. Crazy! :-P

johnnybeef
02-16-2005, 06:03 AM
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Haha I thought about gambling on a 215 (just kidding), I had a friend that did that, he was out in the first hand.

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bless his heart

raptor517
02-16-2005, 06:08 AM
i suppose anything could be a possible leak. however, not placing in 6 in a row is nothing to be worried about. im sure almost anyone who does this often has had a streak of at least 10-12 without placing in the money. i have had 14. it sucks, but it happens. after that though i hit 4 1sts in a row, so i wasnt exactly worried about it. its variance, get used to it, it occurs quite frequently /images/graemlins/wink.gif

Karak567
02-16-2005, 06:30 AM
Yeah, I think you guys are right.

Well I got it back up to 245... should be more but I made a terrible all in call on the bubble in one game :-P. I'm on my way back up but I think I'll do 3 5.50s and 1 11 in a 4 multi-table format until I hit 300. That sound like a good idea? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

spentrent
02-16-2005, 06:58 AM
Here's my very stupid method. I'm often under-bankrolled for the level I prefer due to FREQUENT withdrawals -- saving up for a July wedding /images/graemlins/smile.gif. So every week I dump my roll down to 100-200.

If I have $111, play 1 $10 with 3 $5s.
If I have $222, play 1 $20 with 3 $10s.
If I have $733, play 1 $30 with 3 $20s.
If I have $1055, play 1 $50 with 3 $30s

I don't usually make it to the fourth stage before the weekly purge /images/graemlins/wink.gif. But due to the sheer volume of games I play per day, I don't mind cheating my way up like this, even though sometimes getting kicked in the ass by variance at the fives makes me VERY VERY distressed and angry. Two weeks ago I managed to drop to $20, that's right, $20 bucks. You have to be very tilt-aware to do this, to say the least.

I have little Buddha statues everywhere.

Elektrik
02-16-2005, 07:17 AM
You mention that you are saving for a wedding, and so you are withdrawing on a weekly basis. Where are you putting this money? It would most likely be much, much, much better invested, assuming you have a decent ROI, in yourself to start the week playing higher levels. If you play a lot, you'll make so much more long term that it isn't even close taking it out weekly, putting it in a bank, and building up from the lower levels again.

spentrent
02-16-2005, 07:22 AM
You're forgetting the Fiancee Factor(tm): "If you don't give me X bucks per week I'll cut off your balls and break the computer. Don't give me any more math variance mumbo jumbo bullXXXX."

Understand? And it doesn't all get saved... bills like to be paid too /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

stillmatic
02-16-2005, 08:10 AM
But if u explained to her that you could double your weekly profits if u simply dont cash out for 2 weeks... your balls might be safe, might be worth talking with her about it.

spentrent
02-16-2005, 08:19 AM
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But if u explained to her that you could double your weekly profits if u simply dont cash out for 2 weeks... your balls might be safe, might be worth talking with her about it.

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I think we both know that I'm just asking for variance during the "test two weeks" which will ruin all of my credibility. We're talking about someone who won't take a one dollar bet on a basketball game for fear of losing money. She's sat behind me as I nonchalantly placed OOTM in 8 straight tournaments, did the math (8x20), and almost killed me for being "too cool about it." YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP AGAINST, MY FRIEND!

two_dogs
02-16-2005, 11:31 AM
Shame on you /images/graemlins/ooo.gif