1st level, late position, QQ, facing a UTG raise

[Bigwig]

This is a hypothetical question.

Say you're in the CO with two red Q's, 1st level, blinds 10/20.

An UTG player you have no read on (treat him as standard) raises to 80 and it's folded to you. What's your standard play?

[The Yugoslavian]

What site and level?

Yugoslav

[raptor517]

i would imagine its start level 1. and in that case i would make it about 240 or so to go, and fold if he pushes.

[Bigwig]

Eh, I didn't want to specify that much. Stars $30. What I play.

[The Yugoslavian]

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Eh, I didn't want to specify that much. Stars $30. What I play.

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This information is necessary due to blind structures, starting chips, and level of play.

Yugoslav

[Elektrik]

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Say you're in the CO with two red Q's

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I raise if I have two red queens, flat call if I have one red/one black, and lay it down if I have two measly black ones - they never bring good luck.

[curtains]

Hard to do anything too terrible here except for folding. I generally raise but depending on blind structures and stack sizes (since i dont know what site its from) and other factors calling is a reasonable alternative.

[The Yugoslavian]

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Hard to do anything too terrible here except for folding. I generally raise but depending on blind structures and stack sizes (since i dont know what site its from) and other factors calling is a reasonable alternative.

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So what would you do at a Stars $30 for instance?

Yugoslav

[curtains]

Id generally reraise to about 250-300.

[microbet]

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i would make it about 240 or so to go, and fold if he pushes.

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Dammit, I know that's what you're supposed to do. You don't have to rub my face in it. I knew it when I made the raise in the first place. I PLANNED on folding to a reraise all-in. I COULDN'T HELP MYSELF!!! OF COURSE HE HAD AA!!!! WILL YOU LAY OFF, PLEASE!!!!! AND GET THE HELL OUT OF MY HEAD BEFORE I HAVE TO COME IN THERE WITH AN ICE PICK!!!!

[curtains]

Btw difference between stars+party here is important. Id never want to raise to 300 in a $30 s+g on party and then fold for my last 500 to some idiot bozo with K7s. On party tournaments with T800 I'd reraise with the idea of calling an allin. In the $200s I might play it differently altogether.
On stars it depends. I'd probably fold preflop if they move allin. I'd have to be there to know what I'd really do. Sometimes you just get the feeling someone just got done watching WSOP rebroadcast on ESPN and wants to move allin every hand.

[raptor517]

/images/graemlins/mad.gif come in here with an ice pick and see what happens

[SumZero]

I typically play on UB at the low level 5+.5 where you get 1000 chips and the first level is 5/10 not 10/20. This gives you a lot more play. Here assuming someone bet the pot, I'd often reraise the pot (which is only about 1/8 of my stack at the first level assuming the action described above) with QQ in the first level. Sometimes I'll call to hope for the set/overpair. I don't really want a reraise all in against me as that could be any of a number of hands some that I'm dominating some that are dominating me, most frequently the coin flip AK IME. If I did call reraise and got reraised back all in by the original raiser I used to autocall as this was often lower pocket pairs, Ax x>=9, etc. Lately, thanks I think to the $1+.1 getting the really terrible players, I've seen this be a stronger range of hands more often even at my low buyin level.

[imported_Robert Andersson]

easy fold!