Software for the cheat

[powerplay]

I have heard over the last few weeks that somewhere someone has delveloped software for on online poker players to view their opponents hole cards. Is this true? Has anyone else heard of this non-sense before? I hope it is not true

[KenProspero]

I doubt it.

[skipperbob]

If they have; it's over; the pain won't last long

[skipperbob]

You know they're trying

[microbet]

that would be very difficult

I'm no expert in this, but I'm sure they don't send info about the opponent's hole cards to your computer until they show, encrypted or not.

They would have to have either broken into the website's (e.g. Party's) servers or have some way of monitoring the internet traffic routed to all the players at your table.

I guess if they had a way of getting a virus on all the computers at the table - just a popular virus or again by having broken into something in the provider's software.

I suppose if they worked at a large ISP they might have a shot at it working sometimes or maybe the CIA.

[1C5]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone does eventually. If a good hacker wanted to do something like that, I bet eventually it could be done.

[stupidsucker]

Even if software like this ever came out its self ruining. Anyone smart enough to make something like this is smart enough to keep it to themselves rather then market it.

If they used it themselves then they would still have to be ultra careful to not get caught. You still have to go all in with KK preflop when you are against AA.

If It was proven that 100 people had this program and were using it now I wouldnt even care. If it becomes an epidemic it will get fixed. Online poker people have money. With money comes power. If someone is out to destroy the online poker world then they have a very worthy adversary to deal with. I wouldnt mess with anyone that makes that much money. Call me silly, but when you have that much money you can find ways to be above the law.

[bigredlemon]

Yea I have it... it works perfectly... except for one problem....it's only accurate 0.001% of the time.

[The Yugoslavian]

The Cheat has no use for such software - he's much too busy DJing at Bubs' in the evenings and creating stupid music videos.

Yugoslav

[Scuba Chuck]

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You still have to go all in with KK preflop when you are against AA.


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Ain't that the truth. At PP, I think the stats are probably 50/50 that you win/lose this hand. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[stupidsucker]

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The Cheat has no use for such software - he's much too busy DJing at Bubs' in the evenings and creating stupid music videos.

Yugoslav

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lol


Ps : stay off of my tables. You are always bad luck for me. Yesterday I played 29 games. my first 8 I went 7 for 8... my last 21 when I encountered you I went 2/21. (Who says this game is streaky).. Its either you or the cash out curse!!! I cashed out 1k after my 8th game.(for thoser that dont know im kidding im sorry)

[SuitedSixes]

I always money when Yugo is at my table.

[The Yugoslavian]

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The Cheat has no use for such software - he's much too busy DJing at Bubs' in the evenings and creating stupid music videos.

Yugoslav

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lol


Ps : stay off of my tables. You are always bad luck for me. Yesterday I played 29 games. my first 8 I went 7 for 8... my last 21 when I encountered you I went 2/21. (Who says this game is streaky).. Its either you or the cash out curse!!! I cashed out 1k after my 8th game.(for thoser that dont know im kidding im sorry)

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We played 21 SNGs together last night? I must have been more lonely and suicidal than I thought since I didn't notice. Or are you saying after you encountered me in one SNG you went on your bad streak? I'll have to check my HHs when I go home, /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

Don't worry though, I never plan on sitting with you and many times have either gotten up and/or never sat down when I see the dreaded 11th seat occupied.

SuitedSixes: Ilya always kills when I'm at his tables too. obviously all this has nothing to do with variance and you guys should be playing the $215s immediately, /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Yugoslav

[stupidsucker]

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Or are you saying after you encountered me in one SNG you went on your bad streak?

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that one... except I am exagerating. The game we played together was about mid bad streak. I still blame you.

[The Yugoslavian]

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Or are you saying after you encountered me in one SNG you went on your bad streak?

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that one... except I am exagerating. The game we played together was about mid bad streak. I still blame you.

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Ok, good. I was wondering 'how the hell did I accidentally sit at 11 of his tables?! And how did I have a winning night?!?!?!'

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Yugoslav

[curtains]

I heard Strongbad uses it though

[scotty34]

It is possible and has been done before (http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/entdev/article.php/616221) (courtesy of the Zoo FAQ). Software has become much more secure since then, as companies constantly become aware of and correct loopholes. But it is not out of the realm of possible that it could happen again.

[curtains]

I play so well that even if everyone could see my hole cards, Id win easily.

[scotty34]

Yea, but you wouldnt be making the "maximum value" because you would get less action from your AA's and KK's etc /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[ChrisV]

If you're talking about the spam that's been going around in the chat at Party (and elsewhere) if you visit their site, you'll discover that they're talking about seeing your opponents' cards.... AFTER the hand is over.

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[AtticusFinch]

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If you're talking about the spam that's been going around in the chat at Party (and elsewhere) if you visit their site, you'll discover that they're talking about seeing your opponents' cards.... AFTER the hand is over.

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Yeah, assuming it goes to a showdown. It's one of the good things about Party that I wish more sites would do. (And perfectly within the rules, by the way.)

[morgan180]

i think its bundled with the pattern mapper

[MonkeeMan]

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software for on online poker players to view their opponents hole cards.

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There is a much more effective way to do this with hardware. Buy a pair of the infamous Cobalt Blue glasses. These work both online and in b&m. Plus, they're soooo cool.
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[McMelchior]

PokerStars uses 64 bit encryption, most of the other sites including party uses 32 but encrypion. That means that any communication between your client (software) and the game server is practically impossible to monitor and decode in real time for third parties.

The only way cheaters would be able to see holecards would be to break (hack) into the game server. We are now not talking about "cheating software" but very advanced computer piracy. Such a break in would probably not go unnoticed by the site for more than at the most a few days, since it would create unusual traffic patterns from the server to the cheats.

Personally, my biggest concern is when I play on my terrace in the summer half of the year. Living in Manhattan my laptop screen is theoretically visible from like 5 - 10,000 windows or even more. Somebody with a strong spotting scope could focus on screen and read my hole cards ... brrrrr....

Best,

McMelchior (Johan)

[AtticusFinch]

Actually there are more creative methods. Viruses or trojans would be the most effective way. I'm sure you guys remember the poker "bot" that circulated a while back that actually transmitted your hole cards to the author. (Poetic justice in a way).

A virus that did nothing but transmit your hole cards to a server could potentially survive for a very long time, actually, as it would be difficult to detect if it did no other damage to your machine. And if it were detected and removed? Fine, just write another one. I have little doubt that it will happen eventually.

[Big Limpin']

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The Cheat has no use for such software - he's much too busy DJing at Bubs' in the evenings and creating stupid music videos.

Yugoslav

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Dont be hating on those vids...they are Apple produced by the cheat, he makes do without a compy/lappy...and anyone with the directorial clout to get the Coach Z to say "ladiez!" is a genious in my books