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Mez
02-14-2005, 01:31 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1035)
SB (t1640)
Hero (t5500)
UTG (t1825)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.

UTG folds
Button raises allin (t1035)
SB folds

spentrent
02-14-2005, 01:42 PM
You're getting better than 2 to 1 so, DEFINITELY... uh... ask Atticus /images/graemlins/wink.gif.

morello
02-14-2005, 01:48 PM
No!

Use the fish to increase your stack! You WANT it to remain 4 handed here. The other 3 will cautiously pass the blinds back and forth, waiting for one to bust. Your job is to take their blinds, often with any 2 cards.

Mez
02-14-2005, 02:59 PM
Good point. I don't think that I mentioned this but this is a step tourney. 1st and 2nd pay the same.

spentrent
02-14-2005, 03:08 PM
Step tourney? That makes a HUGE difference. Just post/fold and eat lunch 'til the game's over. If you're over 3500, this is one of those rare "fold AA pre-flop" scenarios.

ilya
02-14-2005, 03:10 PM
Nah

edit: STEP tourney? NAH

pokerraja
02-14-2005, 03:13 PM
[ QUOTE ]
No!

Use the fish to increase your stack! You WANT it to remain 4 handed here. The other 3 will cautiously pass the blinds back and forth, waiting for one to bust. Your job is to take their blinds, often with any 2 cards.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with your thinking. But I think you have to call this getting over 2-1 on your money here. The button could have almost anything here, considering hes in desperation mode. So, 6-9 will most likely play better considering that and the money odds given. Even if you lose the hand you will still have a demanding chip lead and can still bully the table. This is almost a free-roll situation. It's a win-win.

ps- I just re-read the thread and found out its a step tourney. That does change the thinking a bit. But I still think I call here. This might be a leak of mine, but I feel that even if I lose the hand I will still win the tourney with the amount of chips I have. T5500 gives you some permission to make this call??? don't you think???

ColdestCall
02-14-2005, 03:16 PM
In a regular SNG, this is a fold. In a STEP, it's a FOLD.

Scuba Chuck
02-14-2005, 06:05 PM
But you're breaking Daliman's rule #2.

Mez
02-15-2005, 11:47 AM
I'm actually surprised at the posts here: 50/50 to call, although I haven't seen a lot of support for either decision.

My thinking was that the raiser doesn't need a premium hand to make this play. I put him on Ax or Kx. Even if he had AK, I'm getting 2:1 to make the call and I'm slightly better than 35% to win if he has 2 overs, so I'm getting proper odds.

In terms of keeping 3 short stacks around, that should have been a consideration. I was in the mode to try and win the tournament, I had won the last 5 pots by going allin preflop.

Any thoughts?