Step Tourny- Any Party skins have this?

[AA suited]

i plan to start playing Steps.

but My Party acct doesnt have a rake rebate /images/graemlins/frown.gif

i would like to avoid the trouble of closing my party acct and trying to open a new party acct under an affiliate.

Are the Step tournys at any other Party skin (with the same player pool)?

[Allinlife]

nope it's exclusively PP only

[AtticusFinch]

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i plan to start playing Steps.

but My Party acct doesnt have a rake rebate /images/graemlins/frown.gif

i would like to avoid the trouble of closing my party acct and trying to open a new party acct under an affiliate.

Are the Step tournys at any other Party skin (with the same player pool)?

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What level are you planning on buying in at? If you start at level 1, it's probably not worth worrying about.

[AA suited]

lvl 3 (200+15). i have a $6k bankroll. plus i save 2.5% on the rake fee.

yeah, i know..what's $5 when i'm willing to risk $6k. but it's the principle. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[AtticusFinch]

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lvl 3 (200+15). i have a $6k bankroll. plus i save 2.5% on the rake fee.

yeah, i know..what's $5 when i'm willing to risk $6k. but it's the principle. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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Yeah, I worried about this, too, but I'm starting at the step 1s, so to heck with it. I would absolutely try and get rakeback if I were playing at your level.

Has anyone tried negotiating rakeback with PP, threatening a site switch? I'll bet they'd play ball with a high-volume player. After all, their standard affiliate policy is not to allow rakeback at all, but some affiliates negotiate it with PP approval.

[AA suited]

you can;t be your own affiliate.

[AtticusFinch]

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you can;t be your own affiliate.

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I know, but you may be able to negotiate switching to another affiliate if you're a high volume player. Just think if Gigabet said he'd switch to Stars if PP didn't let him get rakeback from someone. They'd say, "Yes sir! And can we wash your feet, too?"

[rwesty]

Wouldn't it make just as much sense to get rakeback if you're starting out at Step 1? Take the case where you make it all the way to Step 5, but don't cash. The rakeback only, assuming 20%, will get you something for your efforts (over 100% ROI in this case).

.2(1+5+15+35+65) = 24.2

Anything wrong with my math? This is assuming freerolls count towards rake totals. Maybe this is not the case.

Can anyone confirm whether rake is only counted for the step you buy-in at or all steps played?

[Scuba Chuck]

If you PM in a week, I'll let you know if my sneaky idea worked. (It's probably not that sneaky, but it's sneaky for me). I recently setup a rake rebate at a PP skin, and still have my PP acct.

Alas, but in the end, I believe the STEPs are only at PP.

[AtticusFinch]

I don't think you get rakeback on freerolls to later steps. I don't think it counts as having "paid" the rake. Correct me I'm wrong.

[microbet]

Are you sure you can't? I was going to sign up as an affiliate and then get a new PP account through myself. I guess if this is true, I'll have to sign my wife up as an affilliate and sign up through her.

[byronkincaid]

Saw this post on RGP, I am not affiliated with them and know nothing else except what I read. Maybe answer to your problem? Maybe should ask in zoo if they know about it.

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I will try and make this as simple as possible: The site is 100%
legitimate, It is not a scam or some b.s. ripoff. We have a special
agreement with a high level affiliate in the Party Poker organization.
Obviously we aren't getting paid 25% and paying out 25%. We are making a
small percentage for our efforts.

My partner and I both had sizeable affiliate programs, and we lost a lot
of our players to the other skins who were capitalizing on "rakeback"
deals and cannabalizing Party Pokers players.

Party Poker has been suffering some big losses to the other skins: Namely
Empire Poker, Intertops, eurobet, & more recently PokerNow who have been
aggressive with their rakebake programs through their affiliates.

Party Poker has finally decided to fight back through the back channels.

In a different thread a player asked what's the big deal? Party & IGM
still get their piece? This is true, but they get a much smaller piece
than they would receive if they players were playing directly on Party
Poker's site.

When players sign up with an IGM skin, Party Poker makes
significantly less revenue, what the exact number or % is I don't
specifically know.

For sake of discussion, let's say, Empire poker or any of the other skin
gets 45% of the rake, the real number is probably higher and based on
other poker networks published information it could be as high as 65%.

Basically, any player that converts or switches to a skin from Party
Poker, Party loses a minimum of 20% of the rake, and in many cases as much
as 45% or more of the revenue they were receiving. (45%+ paid to
affiliate skin - any previous affiliate fees on original Party Poker
account, if any fees at all). How many people you know that just signed
up on Party from a magazine or directly from their website? I signed up
that way, and I know a ton of players that did also. On these players
party was making 100% of the rake! Now they make significantly less
because these players have moved to other skins and rake rebate programs.
Party Poker wants these players back, hence the switchbacktoparty.com
conversion campaign.

The whole idea behind skins was that these skins would provide an
additional marketing channel, a different look or feel that covered many
different demographics and that these skins would provide "new" customers
to the party poker (IGM) network.

Several of these skins have given up on traditional marketing and are
aggressively targeting Party Poker players through rake back programs.
Basically cannibalizing Party's existing customer database.

Party Poker has decided enough is enough, and we have been given
permission through the backchannels to Switch Back these players to Party.

I understand the natural skepticism, especially with a post on RGP, as
there are a lot of b.s. offers and people that are unethical, dishonest,
and unreliable. I can assure you that is not the case here.

We will be launching a discussion forum on our web page in the near
future, so players that have used the switchbacktoparty.com program can
post their positive or negative experiences with us.

Sorry for the windy message, but I wanted to try and clear up the
outstanding questions that several users had.

Jason
Jason(removethejunkfromthismessage)@switchbacktopa rty.com

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[microbet]

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I will try and make this as simple as possible: The site is 100% legitimate, It is not a scam or some b.s. ripoff.

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Pretty good idea to never read anything past a sentence like this.

Party has an affiliate program that doesn't look very hard to sign up for. If you can't be your own affilliate, find a friend or relative to become your affilliate and you outta be able to get the whole 20-25% rakeback.