Playing KK

[datune]

I'm trying to figure out the correct play (NL ring game) :

preflop I (player1) have KK, which I obviously bet, player 2 calls, rest of the table folds.

Flop comes: 2d 6h Jc

I place a pot sized bet, and here's where it starts getting tricky

Scenario 1: He raises me, which leaves me totally guessing about what he could possibly have. Either he has two underpairs, or J's with a low pair, or he has pocket J's, which would give him trip J's, or he is trying to bluff...

How can I make this call? (let's say that player 2 is a loose and agressive player) Should I lay down the cards? I'm trying to figure how I can decide whether to call or not (or raise... but that feels like a whole different story).

Let's just stick to this scenario for now. Thanks a lot in advance for your time /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[Caruso329]

Raise 4x BB + 1 BB for every limper PF. Pot it on the flop, depending on how laggy villain is, push to a re-raise. If he has JJ he would smooth-call your bet and extract the most out of you. Same with any other set. AA could be a possibility here but I think you would've been re-raised PF, unless he is your smarter than average Party player. He more than likely has AJ, KJ, QJ, QQ, TT, 99, etc. Push, you're most likely good here.

[datune]

Why is it more then likely that he has QQ before JJ? Because there is a J on the board?

Don´t get me wrong, I appreciate your answer, but I don´t really feel like I know more then before. I still find this situation very tricky....

[swede123]

He's saying it's unlikely the guy has jacks or another set, simply because he's raising you here. His reasoning being the guy would probably flat call you here with a made set, wanting to extract more money from you in later betting rounds.

Mind you, I was just explaining the reasoning of the responder. Personally I wouldn't necessarily discount a set here...

Swede

[Rah]

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AA could be a possibility here but I think you would've been re-raised PF, unless he is your smarter than average Party player.

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So a dumb player raises with AA, a smart player does not? Ehm... what?

[datune]

I realize there are quite a few possibilities, but I am trying to figure out on what grounds I can make this call? How can I make this call?

[datune]

Just talked to a friend (who plays since 4 years) who said he would instantly make this call, based on the fact that if one does the math my Kings will be good most of the time, if not ....well that´s the swing.

[slickterp]

bingo. the key is that your KK will be good a vast majority of the time here. i see AJ here.