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egj
02-13-2005, 02:58 PM
PartyPoker 20+2. The last two hands I received JJ UTG+1 andc QQ UTG. Each time I raised 4xBB and took down the pot pre-flop. This time I look down at TT in the Big Blind.

On the one hand, I probably have the best hand (but it's vulnerable) so I should go over the top all-in. On the other hand, these guys will probably think I'm maniac and call. Against the likely collection of overcards I'm probably a dog or at best a small favorite.

So I folded. What would you do and would "table image" be a big factor in the decision?

By the way, MP3 was quite loose.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t565)
UTG+1 (t715)
UTG+2 (t505)
MP1 (t1495)
MP2 (t625)
MP3 (t825)
CO (t455)
Button (t790)
SB (t810)
Hero (t1215)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t175</font>, MP3 calls t175, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero?

Oluwafemi
02-13-2005, 03:07 PM
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PartyPoker 20+2. The last two hands I received JJ UTG+1 andc QQ UTG. Each time I raised 4xBB and took down the pot pre-flop. This time I look down at TT in the Big Blind.

On the one hand, I probably have the best hand (but it's vulnerable) so I should go over the top all-in. On the other hand, these guys will probably think I'm maniac and call. Against the likely collection of overcards I'm probably a dog or at best a small favorite.

So I folded. What would you do and would "table image" be a big factor in the decision?

By the way, MP3 was quite loose.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t565)
UTG+1 (t715)
UTG+2 (t505)
MP1 (t1495)
MP2 (t625)
MP3 (t825)
CO (t455)
Button (t790)
SB (t810)
Hero (t1215)

Preflop: Hero is BB with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t175</font>, MP3 calls t175, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero?

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i say fold and let those two players duke it out. i'm not in favor of calling to see the flop with 10s. if the flop comes with any overcard, then what is your move gonna be on the flop, especially facing the fact that you have to act first? then, let's say you bet the flop and are either called by one of the MP players or reraised?

bigredlemon
02-13-2005, 03:31 PM
You have the button. There'll be overcards about 5-60% of the time IIRC. You're getting 2-1 here. If one of the blinds re-raises, you get to act last (though you probably have to fold it there.) If flop comes no overcards and they check, easy push to take it down.

Ideally, I'd want to push here. MP2 can't call without a strong hand because there's MP3 behind him. MP3 hasn't showed much aggression either so he might lay it down too. Even if you do get a call, you probably have the best hand and are getting 3-2 pot odds since there's already 425 in.

egj
02-13-2005, 03:34 PM
I'm the big blind, not the button.

&gt; There'll be overcards about 5-60% of the time IIRC

50-60%? More like 65% according to my back of the envelope calculation.

egj
02-13-2005, 03:35 PM
I definitely wouldn't call, for the reasons you mention. I think my options are all-in or fold.

bigredlemon
02-13-2005, 03:37 PM
Then i'm thinking of jacks. You don't want to play a middle pair out of position so all in or fold then.