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bozlax

02-11-2005, 12:22 PM

Comments on the flop call, and what do I do on the turn? All of these players are calling stations, CO being the only one with really any post-flop agg numbers. I think I have 6 clean outs, so I'm ok to call, but raising would give CO the chance to reraise me with what I'm sure is A9-ish, and besides I want to keep the trapped players in, right?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, SB folds, Hero ?

bozlax

02-11-2005, 12:24 PM

Well, I hit my gutshot, and since I'd been passive on the flop and turn I was able to pull a couple more bets out of the crowd with a river C/R. Anybody who'd stayed in with 64 was just going to take my money.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, MP1 raises, 1 fold, MP3 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (7.50 BB) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (5 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP3 checks, CO bets, SB folds, Hero calls, MP1 calls, MP3 folds.

River: (10.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO bets, Hero raises, MP1 calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

davelin

02-11-2005, 12:29 PM

Bet out the river next time you hit your GS like this.

milesdyson

02-11-2005, 01:01 PM

Flop is easy, rainbow board getting immediate odds to call your gutshot.

On the turn, you're getting 8.5:1 with guys behind you who just called on the flop, and the turn card is not scary at all. So you can be pretty sure they're either calling or folding. With implied odds the turn is a call.

But I agree you should bet out on the river. Usually MP1 won't be gracious enough to call two cold after your check raise.

bozlax

02-11-2005, 01:30 PM

I _did_ consider that problem on the river, but figured that if CO bet, I raised and MP1 folded, CO would at least call, if not re-raise me. So, I figured to get the same 2 bets in the pot as I would if I bet out and MP1 and CO both called.

davelin

02-11-2005, 02:54 PM

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I _did_ consider that problem on the river, but figured that if CO bet, I raised and MP1 folded, CO would at least call, if not re-raise me. So, I figured to get the same 2 bets in the pot as I would if I bet out and MP1 and CO both called.

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Yeah but if you bet out and CO raises you can get even more. Plus a scary board like this gets checked through often.