Official Tilt - Episode 4 - thread

[detroitplayer]

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[luckycharms]

"Can you believe it? She walked away from the nuts."

No. She did not. 44 (quads) and 8d9d (straight flush diamonds to the jack) both beat her.

[Grisgra]

The Matador has a pattern-mapper. Sweet.

[istewart]

THIS SHOW IS SO BAD.

[mostsmooth]

the sherrifs kicked in the door to get to nichols and his pics, and when they left the door closed like it was brand new, and then he latched the lock. thats pretty funny

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[masse75]

Dammit...posted this elsewhere under "Tao of Matador." I'll repost.


Like many out there, I'm a glutton for punishment. Chasing gutshot draws...raising with bottom pair. Most of all, I just sat through another @#$%ing episode of "Tilt."

1. What was up with the Matador's soliloquy on the Russian mentality. Ever hear ANY poker play wax poetic like that? Usually, it's "Are you gonna finish that drink?"

2. Sheriff to brother hell-bent on revenge: "Next time I see your face, it'd better be through an airplane window." Sheriff, what are you doing that close to an airplane?

3. "The most powerful play in poker is moving all-in." Not so fast...we saw the most powerful play in Episode 1: threatening to pop a cap in someone because of a string-raise.

Any thoughts? This show is the "car-wreck" of ESPN...it's horrible, but you gotta look.

[mostsmooth]

car wreck? i love this show!!!!

[binions]

I think it's obvious that Matador knows what's going on with the 3 stooges.

[Kevmath]

Gotta love the subtle product placement in tonight's show for GMC and Bud Light.

Kevin...

[mostsmooth]

btw, how many episodes is this show for the season?
and whats the plans for next season? all new characters or keep these and make up a different plot for the new season

[Kevmath]

It's a 9 episode season.

Kevin...

[mostsmooth]

the big game is going to be week 5? or week 9?
at least when lucky was on they made the big game the last episode

[Kevmath]

It seems next week's show is supposed to be the "big game" to them From what I read though, they were playing towards the "world championship", which would seem to be how the series will conclude.

Kevin...

[mostsmooth]

and another thing,
nichols beats up the 2 thugs, grabs the guys by the nuts and starts squeezing, gets the info he needs then proceeds to go for the guys cash.
the guy says "what are you doing?"
1. hes doing whatever he wants at this point because you just got your ass kicked and youre laying on your back.
2. why does the guy care as long as he isnt squeezing is nuts anymore?
3. how is the guy still conscious?

[detroitplayer]

Sorry, but I think Madsen is actually doing the worst job on this show. Every single line he says is over-acted to the nth degree. His contrived gravely whisper, his ridiculous eye-squint / head bob every time he opens his mouth... He's making the "Crapper" look like Deniro.

Lee Nichol is brutal as well. He's playing like an angry retard who can't get the square peg into the wrong hole. He's giving WWF style staredowns to random old ladies to get information.

I'm waiting for Vince McMahon to pop out from under the table.

[ed8383]

Tilt seems to be doing good in the ratings department and it looks like a hit, but how in the world are they going to extend the series to more than 1 season? or did they already have an agreement that Tilt is just a 1 season show?

[AlienCorpse]

"Moving all in is the most powerful play in poker. You can break someone or lose everything" or you can tie and have a split pot.

Am I the only one who thinks the matador isnt winning that much more money by cheating then if he would play straight up. I mean how is knowing that the 7 of clubs is a dead card and so that the whale actually has 0 outs instead of 1 help him? Would he have thrown the boat away if he did have one out. Why do i shave my testicles? Are you bitches starting to undastand me. yo im out

[Dominic]

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"Can you believe it? She walked away from the nuts."

No. She did not. 44 (quads) and 8d9d (straight flush diamonds to the jack) both beat her.

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1. It's a dramatic TV show. Not a poker tutorial.

2. As far as the other guy is concerned, any hand that
beats his flush is "the nuts."

3. It's also possible for the guy not to know that Jacks over 4s are not the nuts.

4. I've seen this mistake made every single day at the poker table - someone calling a hand "the nuts" when it isn't. So maybe "Tilt" is actually more realist in the poker sense than you're giving it credit for.

[KKbluff]

not trying to hijack this thread, but i would like to see if anyone knows any great one liners they say?
this series is FULL of cheese so i know there are many great quotes.

[masse75]

I think one of the best (worst) was in the first episode where Cueball Stare-Em-Down talked about being taken out "ninja-style." He was dead before he even felt the knife.

[KKbluff]

You can never forget the "should i call?" question asked by the older man followed up by "do you ask a barber if you need a haircut" in episode 2 i think. After this the old man calls the all in and loses.
lol, i love these quotes..

[JoeTable]

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"Moving all in is the most powerful play in poker. You can break someone or lose everything" or you can tie and have a split pot.

Am I the only one who thinks the matador isnt winning that much more money by cheating then if he would play straight up. I mean how is knowing that the 7 of clubs is a dead card and so that the whale actually has 0 outs instead of 1 help him? Would he have thrown the boat away if he did have one out. Why do i shave my testicles? Are you bitches starting to undastand me. yo im out

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As I was telling my wife the other day, this very point was the nail in the coffin IMO in making this the worst written show in the history of television. Like you need ANY HELP in pushing or calling an all in with a flopped full house. But to know the 7c is dead? SO FREAKING WHAT. And for that matter, he has to KNOW that the billionaire has T8c in the first place for that information to be relevant. God that was lame. He had a full house to the billionaires flush. That's not cheating or nefarious. That's straight up poker.

[JoeTable]

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You can never forget the "should i call?" question asked by the older man followed up by "do you ask a barber if you need a haircut" in episode 2 i think. After this the old man calls the all in and loses.
lol, i love these quotes..

[/ QUOTE ]

Essentilly, all of the table talk is classic unintential comedy. The more they talk, the more retarded they sound. Who talks like that at a table? I ask ANYONE...have you ever told someone you picked up their betting patterns...and then tell them what they were?

[detroitplayer]

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As I was telling my wife the other day, this very point was the nail in the coffin IMO in making this the worst written show in the history of television. Like you need ANY HELP in pushing or calling an all in with a flopped full house. But to know the 7c is dead? SO FREAKING WHAT. And for that matter, he has to KNOW that the billionaire has T8c in the first place for that information to be relevant. God that was lame. He had a full house to the billionaires flush. That's not cheating or nefarious. That's straight up poker.

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Not that I don't agree that this show is ridiculous... However, the Matador didn't know he had a straight flush draw until the guy turned his hand over. I think the Matador just knew he held the best hand. Once he saw the draw, he remembered what Eddie folded and said "I don't think you want to know the odds of you catching the 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif "

[Sponger15SB]

This show is so bad that it is the best show in the history of television.

I swear.

[bobby rooney]

Oh god, tell me there won't be a Season 2.

[Iconoclastic]

I predict the Matador will turn into a good guy before the series is over.

[Sponger15SB]

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I predict the Matador will turn into a good guy before the series is over.

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Hopefully he will stop string raising too.

[iMsoLucky0]

I am watching episode 4 now, but I missed the first minute or so. I was wondering why the chick "walked away from the nuts" *ahem* 3rd nuts I mean.

I got in just in time to see her walk off and hear the comment.

[Russ McGinley]

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I am watching episode 4 now, but I missed the first minute or so. I was wondering why the chick "walked away from the nuts" *ahem* 3rd nuts I mean.

I got in just in time to see her walk off and hear the comment.

[/ QUOTE ]

Some guy sat down and mentioned that Seymour died. Said it like "some guy who used to run the Sports Book..." and she got flustered and left.

[Shoe]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry, but I think Madsen is actually doing the worst job on this show. Every single line he says is over-acted to the nth degree. His contrived gravely whisper, his ridiculous eye-squint / head bob every time he opens his mouth... He's making the "Crapper" look like Deniro.

Lee Nichol is brutal as well. He's playing like an angry retard who can't get the square peg into the wrong hole. He's giving WWF style staredowns to random old ladies to get information.

I'm waiting for Vince McMahon to pop out from under the table.

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Who is Madsen? I don't know all of their names. I know them as Eddie, The Matador, the cop dude, the blonde, the black guy, the quarter slots guy, the bad sheriff, and tropical henry.

I'm waiting for Vince McMahon to make an appearance too.

[Shoe]

So, is the black guy (sorry i don't know his name) going to play the matador with his investor friend's drug money? Or is he using the seymour's money (the old guy who got killed)?

Also, for some reason I really like this show now, I know the show is super cheesey but I think that is part of what makes it so good. I can't wait for the next episode.

Edit: Also, I agree with the above poster. I think the Matador is onto Eddie and has some suspicions. Either that or he does now with that huge stare-down they had at the end of episode 4. He is the best poker player in the world, he can probably get a read on Eddie.

[Rushmore]

Hey, I've got it scheduled to record every week on my DVR, so I'm gonna watch it every week, and...

I'll be the guy who gets out on a limb and says that the show has improved dramatically since the first episode. I find myself actually enjoying it a bit. The first episode was really awful, but it seems to be getting better.

I enjoy all of the cheesy lines, the nefarious casino bosses, the dumbass Matador, and the bad poker lessons.

Sure beats The freakin Gilmore Girls or something, I suppose.

Nobody agrees? Even a little?

[Bigdaddydvo]

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Sure beats The freakin Gilmore Girls or something, I suppose.


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Heresy.

[BarronVangorToth]

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Who is Madsen?

I'm waiting for Vince McMahon to make an appearance too.

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Madsen = Matador.

He's the brilliant actor from Resevoir Dogs and Kill Bill 2, among other things.

Vince McMahon, agreed, would make anything better. He is the proverbial ray of sunshine.

Barron Vangor Toth
www.BarronVangorToth.com (http://www.BarronVangorToth.com)

[maryfield48]

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Sorry, but I think Madsen is actually doing the worst job on this show. Every single line he says is over-acted to the nth degree. His contrived gravely whisper, his ridiculous eye-squint / head bob every time he opens his mouth... He's making the "Crapper" look like Deniro.

Lee Nichol is brutal as well. He's playing like an angry retard who can't get the square peg into the wrong hole. He's giving WWF style staredowns to random old ladies to get information.

I'm waiting for Vince McMahon to pop out from under the table.

[/ QUOTE ]

Who is Madsen? I don't know all of their names. I know them as Eddie, The Matador, the cop dude, the blonde, the black guy, the quarter slots guy, the bad sheriff, and tropical henry.


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If the description above wasn't enough for you to infer that Madsen=Matador, then you haven't been paying attention.

[drexah]

Anyone catch the "Paulson Mortuary" plug? Matador would have to be a complete idiot to not know that Eddie is actually against him. Also, there was one other huge screw up in terms of the legitimacy of card playing, but as of right now i completey forget what it was.

[BeerMoney]

[ QUOTE ]
Sorry, but I think Madsen is actually doing the worst job on this show. Every single line he says is over-acted to the nth degree. His contrived gravely whisper, his ridiculous eye-squint / head bob every time he opens his mouth... He's making the "Crapper" look like Deniro.



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Very Very accurate description. I felt the same way, but couldn't put it into words the way you did.

[The Truth]

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I predict the Matador will turn into a good guy before the series is over.

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Hopefully he will stop string raising too.

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LOL

[The Truth]

[ QUOTE ]
So, is the black guy (sorry i don't know his name) going to play the matador with his investor friend's drug money? Or is he using the seymour's money (the old guy who got killed)?

Also, for some reason I really like this show now, I know the show is super cheesey but I think that is part of what makes it so good. I can't wait for the next episode.

Edit: Also, I agree with the above poster. I think the Matador is onto Eddie and has some suspicions. Either that or he does now with that huge stare-down they had at the end of episode 4. He is the best poker player in the world, he can probably get a read on Eddie.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think the black guy is DMX aka Earl Simmons. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[JTrout]

I enjoyed the line in the show where the kiddies are talking about turning their 500G into $3 million.

"Triple up, then double it."

[Hauser_III]

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"Triple up, then double it."

[/ QUOTE ]

This complex math is just killing me....

[Rushmore]

[ QUOTE ]
I enjoyed the line in the show where the kiddies are talking about turning their 500G into $3 million.

"Triple up, then double it."

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Yeah, it was delivered as if that's a generally-acknowleged common gameplan. "You know, no big deal, once you've tripled up, just go ahead and double that, then get out. After all three of us have accomplished this modest goal, then we will meet up and carve up the $3M. Now, this is a simple plan--DON'T SCREW IT UP."

[elric]

I love it!!!

A bad poker show beats anything else on mainstream TV!

Please reload the ocean with more fish... This will help.

[BeerMoney]

Since when do you have the tough guy also be nerdy/dorky? He's like a super hero, but he's never been laid. This guy blows, big time.

[Diggslick]

[ QUOTE ]

Since when do you have the tough guy also be nerdy/dorky? He's like a super hero, but he's never been laid. This guy blows, big time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed that the character is way over done. However, even as a young guy, there is something inherently satisfying about watching a bald, middle-aged white guy just beat the crap out of people.

[BeerMoney]

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Since when do you have the tough guy also be nerdy/dorky? He's like a super hero, but he's never been laid. This guy blows, big time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed that the character is way over done. However, even as a young guy, there is something inherently satisfying about watching a bald, middle-aged white guy just beat the crap out of people.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmmmmmm.. So, your saying this is maybe what new heroes should look like?? You may have something here.

[freemont]

Come on, he's a dead ringer for Scott Skiles, coach of the Bulls who as a player once punched Shaq in practice!

[Killer Mike]

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2. why does the guy care as long as he isnt squeezing his nuts anymore?

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LOL!!! That is so freaking true.

Also, just so we're all on the same page, Lee Nickel IS Scott Skiles. Oh, and the part of Clark is played by DMX...you were right on that one.

Hey, why does Eddie always look like he's got a dip in? Perhaps he's just a nic fiend who's at his wits end 'cause you can't smoke at the tables anymore?

[charlie_t_jr]

[ QUOTE ]
the big game is going to be week 5? or week 9?
at least when lucky was on they made the big game the last episode

[/ QUOTE ]

I really wish Fox would consider resurrecting Lucky. It was a little a head of the big poker explosion, probably do a lot better in the ratings the 2nd time around.

[Francis]

I don't know, my wife loves the actor who plays Lucky (John Corbet?). So I'd like to see it come back for her sake.

But maybe I'm strange, but I LOVE Tilt. Not because the show is good, but because the day after I get loads of entertainment reading all the 2+2 comments...

And I should say, any show that has so many great lines in only 3 or 4 episodes is a keeper. I use the kiddie pool with my kids about their homework, piano lessons, karate classes, virtually anything.

And I'm starting to spread the meme at work; Don't be surprised i you see a really really really big semiconductor / microprocessor company have new ads revolving around the theme of "getting out of the kidde pool" if I have anything to say about it. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Francis

[billyjex]

I've grown to like Tilt. Yes, it's cheesy, yes, it has bad poker, but I find myself in front of the tube at 6 on Thursday.

That said, how cool is it that they showed online poker in episode 4? Just exposing people to online poker will get them to come to the shark pool.

[sthief09]

[ QUOTE ]
This show is so bad that it is the best show in the history of television.

I swear.

[/ QUOTE ]


yeah I can't stop watching it each week, yet I laugh at how bad it is. my roommate enjoys it though and he doesn't play poker. I guess when you don't realize how awful the poker content is, it's not that annoying. the poker misinformation really pisses me off though

[Rduke55]

The black guy is Todd Williams.
The only other thing I've seen him in is Law and Order:SVU

[Francis]

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I guess when you don't realize how awful the poker content is, it's not that annoying. the poker misinformation really pisses me off though

[/ QUOTE ]

You should be glad of all the misinformation; all the fish will be playing 63o and other dumb plays...

This is the best thing that could have happened to poker. We should all bow down to the genius that is the Matador..

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[Shoe]

There's a poker player featured in a recent issue of cardplayer who calls himself the matador as well. I wonder if he is going to change his name now.

[bolgenmod]

I just finished watching season 2 of The Wire on DVD (don't have HBO), and the actor who plays Sheriff Nickels has a leading part in the season-long story line -- he's the head of a stevedores' union on the Baltimore waterfront. He is an absolutely amazing actor in The Wire, but he is absolutely crap in Tilt. At first, I didn't even recognize him: I knew I had seen him in something recently, but couldn't remember what. When my friend said, "Isn't that the pyscho sheriff guy from Tilt?" I almost couldn't believe it was the same actor.

Now I can't really fault Tilt for being "unrealistic" about poker or Vegas -- that's entertainment -- but I can fault it for having stupid characters doing and saying stupid things. When you have complex, interesting characters and situations, like in The Wire, it's golden. (And must admit I have less than a clue whether its portrayal of cops, drug dealers, etc is accurate!) But even great actors like Madsen can't save the cheese that is Tilt.

That said, I still watch it -- maybe because it is cheese. And cheese can be delicious....

[Russ McGinley]

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I just finished watching season 2 of The Wire on DVD (don't have HBO), and the actor who plays Sheriff Nickels has a leading part in the season-long story line -- he's the head of a stevedores' union on the Baltimore waterfront. He is an absolutely amazing actor in The Wire, but he is absolutely crap in Tilt. At first, I didn't even recognize him: I knew I had seen him in something recently, but couldn't remember what. When my friend said, "Isn't that the pyscho sheriff guy from Tilt?" I almost couldn't believe it was the same actor.

Now I can't really fault Tilt for being "unrealistic" about poker or Vegas -- that's entertainment -- but I can fault it for having stupid characters doing and saying stupid things. When you have complex, interesting characters and situations, like in The Wire, it's golden. (And must admit I have less than a clue whether its portrayal of cops, drug dealers, etc is accurate!) But even great actors like Madsen can't save the cheese that is Tilt.

That said, I still watch it -- maybe because it is cheese. And cheese can be delicious....

[/ QUOTE ]

Sadly, few actors in the world could make this dialogue very good. Nickel's line "I'm taking my money back... with interest!" was so hackneyed and useless that all you can do is laugh at it and move on. We (the viewer) KNOW that he's taking his money plus whatever money the guy has in his pocket. It's OBVIOUS. We DON'T need to be bashed over the skull with pointless drivel explaining what he's doing. It's lines like these that are ruining this show. I think the story so far is okay, nothing special, but not horrendous, but the dialogue is not realistic to say the least.

[JoeTable]

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I just finished watching season 2 of The Wire on DVD (don't have HBO), and the actor who plays Sheriff Nickels has a leading part in the season-long story line -- he's the head of a stevedores' union on the Baltimore waterfront. He is an absolutely amazing actor in The Wire, but he is absolutely crap in Tilt. At first, I didn't even recognize him: I knew I had seen him in something recently, but couldn't remember what. When my friend said, "Isn't that the pyscho sheriff guy from Tilt?" I almost couldn't believe it was the same actor.

Now I can't really fault Tilt for being "unrealistic" about poker or Vegas -- that's entertainment -- but I can fault it for having stupid characters doing and saying stupid things. When you have complex, interesting characters and situations, like in The Wire, it's golden. (And must admit I have less than a clue whether its portrayal of cops, drug dealers, etc is accurate!) But even great actors like Madsen can't save the cheese that is Tilt.

That said, I still watch it -- maybe because it is cheese. And cheese can be delicious....

[/ QUOTE ]

Sadly, few actors in the world could make this dialogue very good. Nickel's line "I'm taking my money back... with interest!" was so hackneyed and useless that all you can do is laugh at it and move on. We (the viewer) KNOW that he's taking his money plus whatever money the guy has in his pocket. It's OBVIOUS. We DON'T need to be bashed over the skull with pointless drivel explaining what he's doing. It's lines like these that are ruining this show. I think the story so far is okay, nothing special, but not horrendous, but the dialogue is not realistic to say the least.

[/ QUOTE ]

The real horror of that exchange, like the other poster stated, isn't Nickel's reply, it's the damn question. "What are you doing?". I can't think of a single reason why anyone would ask that question. If I just got my ass beat, I wouldn't be incredulous if they guy decided to organize my wallet for me. Isn't that SOP?

[Shoe]

Do you guys think that nickel really gets shot in the next episode by the sheriff? I doubt it since that is what espn wants us to think. My guess is that the shooting happens in a different part of the show, or that Nickel was ready for it and shoots the sheriff instead.

[detroitplayer]

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Do you guys think that nickel really gets shot in the next episode by the sheriff? I doubt it since that is what espn wants us to think. My guess is that the shooting happens in a different part of the show, or that Nickel was ready for it and shoots the sheriff instead.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think Nickel jumps off the top turn buckle and bops 'em over the head with a steel chair.

Then Tropical Henry sneaks up behind Nickle while cupping a handful of ninja dust, and as Nickle turns around, TH blows the dust into Nickel's eyes... rendering him temporarily blind.

The scene then cuts to Everest sitting at the 1/2 NL table where he raises ninety grand pre-flop from UTG with jack deuce o/s.

[Russ McGinley]

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Do you guys think that nickel really gets shot in the next episode by the sheriff? I doubt it since that is what espn wants us to think. My guess is that the shooting happens in a different part of the show, or that Nickel was ready for it and shoots the sheriff instead.

[/ QUOTE ]

I think Nickel jumps off the top turn buckle and bops 'em over the head with a steel chair.

Then Tropical Henry sneaks up behind Nickle while cupping a handful of ninja dust, and as Nickle turns around, TH blows the dust into Nickel's eyes... rendering him temporarily blind.

The scene then cuts to Everest sitting at the 1/2 NL table where he raises ninety grand pre-flop from UTG with jack deuce o/s.

[/ QUOTE ]

Don't you mean green mist?

GREAT MUTA LIVES

[MicroBob]

This show rocks!!!


So...they are just going to take the whole bank-roll and 'triple-up and double-up' (because that's what you do) and because they just 'know' that it's time and that they're ready.

Was there some reason they couldn't do this earlier?

All that stuff about "here...take this $20k and go sit-in on the such-and-such game somewhere and report back" was basically that McManus guy just messing with them and saying "you'll play the matador when I SAY you'll play the matador".

"he's right...it was reckless," he said in a way that somehow seems to indicate that they actually have a plan despite all indications to the contrary.


Miami has serious tilt issues and I would kick her off my freaking team.




It seems pretty obvious to me that Matador's daughter will her Daddy that he saw Eddie and Miami chumming it up at the bar and that that is how the Matador will find out they are all on the same 'team'.
to that end....if it is so damn important to make sure he doesn't find out you are in the least bit connected then why is Clark coming in and dragging Miami away from the table in front of everyone (thus establishing a connection) and why would Eddie and Miami sit at the bar together?


They could make the show much more realistic just by doing simple things like showing them take every precaution possible to pretend like they don't know each other in public....and for the Matador and Eddie to set up their signals and go through a practice-run up in his room while they are sitting and doing nothing.

Simple things.


I'm not even bothered by the poker-content....but NONE of this stuff makes any sense.
I can watch Law and Order or NYPD Blue or ER or whatever and know that that's not what typically goes on in the everyday of detectives or prosecutors or doctors.

But if it's presented reasonabl well and if it just makes a little bit of sense then I can enjoy it.


Instead, they always have to go through this mysterious 'psyching out' the opponent by just talking and talking and talking....and somehow it helps them get the card they need.
It's not just unrealistic to poker...it's unrealsitic to people in general and that's the problem i have with it



That said...it's SO bad that I just can't take my eyes off of it.

[tonedown]

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Since when do you have the tough guy also be nerdy/dorky? He's like a super hero, but he's never been laid. This guy blows, big time.

[/ QUOTE ]

Agreed that the character is way over done. However, even as a young guy, there is something inherently satisfying about watching a bald, middle-aged white guy just beat the crap out of people.

[/ QUOTE ]

Hmmmmmmm.. So, your saying this is maybe what new heroes should look like?? You may have something here.

[/ QUOTE ]
He could be a dead ringer for Harvey Pekar. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Nick B.]

I am surprised how nobody mentioned Eddie picking up the 7-10 split. talk about unreal. It is physically impossible to make it the way that he did.

[chalimac]

We could apply to Tilt what Umberto Eco said about Casablanca:

"Two cliches is kitsch, a hundred cliches is sublime"

[detroitplayer]

Maybe it's just the lines Eddie gets, but he seriously seems like he's doing the best job at acting on the show. There haven't been a whole lot of "Eddie" moments that made me cringe.

The only one I can think of is EP#1 in the elevator, talking about the $7.95 shimp buffet, and he says "Hey, I'm saving MY bankroll for play!"

[JihadOnTheRiver]

I declare Jihad on this entire God-forsaken show. Seriously. Not only is none of the poker action halfway decent, but the acting is worse than a freaking Daytime Soap Opera. After the first episode i decided it was bad but I'd give it a shot for the next couple to see if it improved or if it was at least tolerable. Nope...neither. I quit. Jihad is started. I will finish it.

-Durka Durka
Jihad

[MicroBob]

I forgot about the 7-10 split.

When he left that for himself on his first roll I thought "are they seriously going to have him making that 7-10 split?"
It seemed obvious that they were...but I just couldn't believe they woudl be that stupid...I was wrong.

Sorry I didn't mention it previously....it's difficult to keep up with all of the incredibly stupid moments of that show. But it definitely didn't go unnoticed.

Possible I was just too blinded by all the other stupid moments....it's like my brain goes,

"wow...they just had Miami walk away from the table with J's full...this can't get any stupider."

"guess i was wrong...they just had Eddie make a 7-10 split...now I KNOW this show couldn't get any dumber."

"wow....the bald cop-guy is grabbing the other guy by the balls and seems to be having a pretty good time. Did this show suddenly become gay-porn? We have reached the new moron-stratosphere."

[belloc]

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I am surprised how nobody mentioned Eddie picking up the 7-10 split. talk about unreal. It is physically impossible to make it the way that he did.

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Tilt Checklist:

AA vs. KK......check.
7-10 split.....check.
old whitey beats up four thugs by himself.......check.
matador uses secret potion to turn himself invisible and listen in on the plans of the three bumbling fools trying to hurt him in a cash game.....Episode 5.

Maybe it's just me, but I think they're running out of superlatives.

[Arsene Lupin III]

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I enjoyed the line in the show where the kiddies are talking about turning their 500G into $3 million.

"Triple up, then double it."

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"Whatever your rate is... double it, and cut it in half!"
-rich dude on crank yankers

[legend42]

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We could apply to Tilt what Umberto Eco said about Casablanca:

"Two cliches is kitsch, a hundred cliches is sublime"

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Wow, the odds that an Umberto Eco quote would ever show up on a 2+2 forum might even be higher than the odds of making a 7-10 split /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Daliman]

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I am surprised how nobody mentioned Eddie picking up the 7-10 split. talk about unreal. It is physically impossible to make it the way that he did.

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Actually, it's not, but it's close to impossible. Also funny that he acts like it's "skill". Any pro will tell you it's luck; similar to hitting a hole in one. You can hit it close, but the rest is luck.

Funny thing is, i've seen this split picked up 3x on TV(not a PBA tourney), and all 3 times it was in this fashion. The 5 times i have seen it picked up were 3x similar to this, but banging pin off backstop, and 2x sliding off proper.

Also, isn't it funny that
A. After Miami Raises with KK to ~400, the guy raises her allin for what looks like about 8k!

B. SHE CALLS IT!

Horrendous

[billyjex]

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I am surprised how nobody mentioned Eddie picking up the 7-10 split. talk about unreal. It is physically impossible to make it the way that he did.

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Also, isn't it funny that
A. After Miami Raises with KK to ~400, the guy raises her allin for what looks like about 8k!

B. SHE CALLS IT!

Horrendous

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You're supposed to fold there? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

No limit ring games are lame.

[mostsmooth]

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I am surprised how nobody mentioned Eddie picking up the 7-10 split. talk about unreal. It is physically impossible to make it the way that he did.

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Actually, it's not, but it's close to impossible. Also funny that he acts like it's "skill". Any pro will tell you it's luck; similar to hitting a hole in one. You can hit it close, but the rest is luck.

Funny thing is, i've seen this split picked up 3x on TV(not a PBA tourney), and all 3 times it was in this fashion. The 5 times i have seen it picked up were 3x similar to this, but banging pin off backstop, and 2x sliding off proper.

Also, isn't it funny that
A. After Miami Raises with KK to ~400, the guy raises her allin for what looks like about 8k!

B. SHE CALLS IT!

Horrendous

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not for nothing, but its fairly impossible to slide the 7 into the 10, impossible i say

[wayabvpar]

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Lee Nichol is brutal as well. He's playing like an angry retard who can't get the square peg into the wrong hole.

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Thank you for that gem. I literally laughed out loud.

Add me to the people who love Tilt. It is SO godawful that it is compelling. I am about ready to firebomb ESPN for screwing with its start time, however. They should never schedule a first run program immediately following a live sports broadcast- they invariably run over, and I am stuck with a TiVo'd show that ends right in the middle of the last act. GODDAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheCroShow]

I love this show, it's the best show on TV (seinfeld finishes 2nd because it's over now)

The lines are absolutely gold. The kiddie pool line I use EVERYWHERE. I host a game at home, one of my buddy's got eliminated early on and as he got up to leave I said "Dude, you didn't just lose, you were cheated." He lol'd so hard because he also loves the show Tilt.

Lee Nickle is my hero. I loved it when he beat the hell out of those two guys...a moment I'm sure the Fossilman can appreciate!

THe lines...I cannot get over the lines. The lines make the show, the lines are so great, I love the writers of the show.

I would love another season, but I think it's best to leave it at one. How can they possibly have another season? I think season 2 would be horrible

[detroitplayer]

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Lee Nichol is brutal as well. He's playing like an angry retard who can't get the square peg into the wrong hole.

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Thank you for that gem. I literally laughed out loud.



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Thanks... but I meant "round hole" not "wrong hole". Maybe you already assumed that... /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[riffraff]

I agree with the fact that the start time is unreliable and any use of a "record first airing of this show" feature of the tivo/dvr is completely worthless. I missed the ending of the first two episodes this way and was an immediate turn off. Since they've been re-airing the earlier episodes I've caught up and am strangely compelled to see what happens next show (they basically spill everything on the previews but oh well)

bonehead move by someone at ESPN screwing the DVR users.

[BobH42]

On the DVR thing, not sure whether the one you have will allow you to do this but mine allows an early start time/late end time for anything you're recording. I have a few shows I have to use it with. On Roadrunner's DVR it's under your Series Management, select the show, and pick the Series Management Options (or something like that).

On the 7-10's, my dad's a VERY avid bowler (average in the low 220's on league condition lanes) and he's picked up a 7-10 as well as a few 6-7-10's. He plays the ricochet of the 6 or 7 (depending on which one is first) off the back and THEN off the ball. Basically, this entails throwing the ball really, really hard right at the front of the pin (slightly off to the right) while laughing really hard at how ridiculous it would be if it falls /images/graemlins/wink.gif When it works though with the two ricochet's (to the back then to the ball then catching the 10) it's a true thing of beauty - especially with how ridiculous it looks when he's throwing it...his normal backswing comes back to about 70 degrees back, his 7-10 backswing to about 120 degrees back. I've started shooting that spare the same way myself...never hit it, but there's something really fun about winging the ball as hard as you can at a pin instead of shooting your normal shot (kinda like playing drunk at a play money table and playing like a maniac for a bit).

[twankerr]

Did anyone think that they "2nd thug" that went to beat up nichols was supposed to be the russian that was in the boxing match the matador kept talking about? I'd have to rewatch it, but that was the sense I got.

[detroitplayer]

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Did anyone think that they "2nd thug" that went to beat up nichols was supposed to be the russian that was in the boxing match the matador kept talking about? I'd have to rewatch it, but that was the sense I got.

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Yeah, they probably did that to add to the realism. Instead of Nichols kicking the [censored] out of just two regular guys, they made one of the guys a pro boxer so it'd be more believable.

[TheCroShow]

best line of the show

"That's vintage Clark"

[young nut]

A couple of thoughts:

1. why would they kill that old guy inside a casino with witnesses all around? C'mon now, you are in the middle of a huge desert, at least do it somewhere private. Even mob idiots knew that.

2. The line about Vince Mcman (or however its spelled) was classic. Nickels character is the opitomee of a wrestler with an IQ of mayonaise.

3. I actually caught myself guessing ahead at exactly what was going to happen in almost every scene. Like the 4 suited board with the other guy holding the nut flush...I told myself the board would pair. And on the 7 10 split, I thought, "how cheesy would it be if he made it and then made some dumb poker line reference." Sure enough, something to the effect of, "In poker, the loser always thinks the guy who wins is lucky"

4. I actually think the show has gotten quite a bit better than the first 2 episodes. The plot is starting to get interesting to me, even though the filler scenes are very predictable and cheesy. I'm starting to wonder if their plan will work and whether the Matador will get caught cheating and such.

5. My guess is that the cop shoots tropical henry next episode. The preview made it look like he shot Nickels, but that would be too easy. I think the cop will shoot TH and then plant a gun or something and look like a hero. Either that or he will shoot the wall or something to try and scare Nickels.

[detroitplayer]

The yahoo preview says "Eddie finds out what happens when you cross The Matador."

Pretty much those exact words. *hurtle*

[ed8383]

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5. My guess is that the cop shoots tropical henry next episode. The preview made it look like he shot Nickels, but that would be too easy. I think the cop will shoot TH and then plant a gun or something and look like a hero. Either that or he will shoot the wall or something to try and scare Nickels.

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NO NO NO! Do you need glasses or do I need glasses? Was that really the Sherriff shooting someone or was it The Matador? (my memory fails me but I thought it was The Matador).

Here is what will happen. The Matador will murder either Miami or the black guy (or maybe the mom of Eddie but highly unlikely). Why do you think they show Eddie being escorted by security and his face is full of rage??

[masse75]

Well, with the earlier reference to Nichol and gay porn, maybe "wrong hole" is the correct thing to say...