No games below 25% flop

Online, the number seeing the flop seems to be the most useful method of game selection.


I just ran some simulations on TTH, with Brett Maverick playing against tight, average, and loose lineups. Against the tight game with 22% seeing the flop, Brett, the former Wilson advisor, lost money. The average game was 29%, and he made 3,500 big bets in 200,000 hands. Against the loose game, 40%, he made double that.


I'm not sure how much below 29% seeing the flop is worth playing, but I doubt it goes below 25%


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I agree that the flop % can be a valuable tool,

but it can also be misleading, particularly

when it comes to online game selection.


I play in quite a few games where around 20%

see the flop..What keeps these games so good

is the bad post flop play. The live ones can vary from mediocre to horrendous.


As far as using Turbo, I wouldn't give it any

credit simulating real world post flop play.

I do think it can be useful for trying to

rank preflop starting hands in various

situations/lineups (loose, tight, HU, shorthanded,etc). The fact that they all play bad

post flop kind of balances out the preflop

rankings...However it is probably impossible

to have it show you what bad post flop play

is worth.

Below 25% are the easiest to beat very hard to lose.

Why is that lulu?

In high % flop games you must have the best hand.In low % flop games you can win a lot of small pots with or without the best hand.

That sounds good lulu in theory but all the paradise 20/40 is usually below 25% and I wouldn't call them easy.