AK unimproved

[macdaddy991]

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My 3 bet put UTG all in. SB and I were playing HU for side pot.
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>,

Flop: (9 SB) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (4.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds.

Final Pot: 5.50 BB

[cold_cash]

If he calls on the river you're beat, and I'm sure he didn't fold a better hand.

I think the only time the bet is good is when he has another AK, and the pot would have to be quite a bit bigger and not protected before I'd be willing to gamble on that.

[macdaddy991]

so check turn, check river?

[Shillx]

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so check turn, check river?

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yeah

[hate]

What's with checking this turn? You've got top overcards and fold equity has to be high HU. And the only danger I'm seeing is a possible flush draw.

[Shillx]

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What's with checking this turn? You've got top overcards and fold equity has to be high HU. And the only danger I'm seeing is a possible flush draw.

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Odds say that we are behind. We are probably a 55/45 underdog against a random hand here and even when he is behind he won't be folding too often. You also have to remeber that we are investing 1 BB to potentially win just 1 BB since the pot is protected. Check this all day every day.

Brad

[macdaddy991]

I was unimproved. If he had a pair or flush draw, he wasn't folding. I actually bet the river because I thought he missed.

[Big John D]

what does "the pot is protected" mean?

[Hojglad]

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what does "the pot is protected" mean?

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It means that the pot is large enough so that anyone with a piece of the community cards will not fold for one more bet.

[Shillx]

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what does "the pot is protected" mean?

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It means that the pot is large enough so that anyone with a piece of the community cards will not fold for one more bet.

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Wrong. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

It means that someone is all-in so you should not expect the opponent to pull any fast ones because he is only betting to potentially win part of the pot. With just 1 BB in the side pot, you should not be risking 1 BB with just AK UI. Without the UTG being all-in, a case can be made to bet the turn and the check the river.

Brad

[hate]

oh, didn't see that all-in. I wasn't really concerned about the flush draw like a bet would fold him, I was just pointing out it was the only non-nasty draw on the board.

[Catt]

In addition to the all-in nature of "protected pots" I see the term commonly used when a third player is in the hand and has already called on a given street -- the pot is then "protected" from a pure bluff bet.

Example: Villain bets, XX calls, Hero ??? Hero really can't try a bluff-raise -- the pot has been protected by XX's call whereas if it were heads-up Hero could try and bluff-raise his way to the pot. A bet or a raise can be a bluff; a call can't -- so the presence of XX's call means a bluff is not working here.