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TheSeeker03
02-09-2005, 04:01 PM
What is a good ratio for crushing a tournament?

If we measure cash game success by BB/100 hands ratio, we can measure tournament success by Pay-out to Buy in ratio, or something similar for, say 10 tournaments.
So let's say you play 10 2.2-dollar 20 player tournaments on Pacific Poker. In the course of these ten tournaments you got 1st place 3 times ($20) each, and nothing else. So your payout is 60, while your buy-in is 2.2*10 = 22. Your PO/BI ratio then is something like 2.7.

Does this mean you are crushing the tournament and it's time to move up in stakes?

johnny005
02-09-2005, 04:06 PM
....It could just mean you got insanely lucky as well and really your no good at all.... I think you have to play alot more than 10 20 person tournaments before you will have any idea if you are crushing them or not..

schwza
02-09-2005, 05:02 PM
do a search in the 1-table tournament forum for ROI (return on investment). you'll find 30% ROI is considered very good (i.e., for every $1 entry fee you have 30 cents profit), and that 10 tournaments is just a touch shy of what most people consider significant.

woodguy
02-09-2005, 05:25 PM
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and that 10 tournaments is just a touch shy of what most people consider significant


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A touch shy eh?
You are very kind.

Regards,
Woodguy

schwza
02-09-2005, 05:51 PM
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and that 10 tournaments is just a touch shy of what most people consider significant


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A touch shy eh?
You are very kind.

Regards,
Woodguy

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you know, not shy by too much in terms of orders of magnitude. sort of like, "i've had sex with almost 100 girls."

Potowame
02-09-2005, 05:59 PM
When you sit down and everyother player Leaves to find another game. So you have to wait to be the last player to sit down to get a game.

When You reach that point you are CRUSHING the game and need to move up to get action. Short of that, you are just a player with a decent RTI for a day or two worth of Sit-in-gos.

Pulplife
02-09-2005, 06:17 PM
Until you get the tracking software that is being suggested (which you really have to get to answer the questions you are asking), here are two basic calculations you can use.

ITM% (in the money) = (times ITM)/(# of tournaments)
ROI% (Return on Investment) = (Return - Investment)/Investment

You need at least a couple of hundred tournaments to BEGIN to see an average. At the $level you are playing, you should have an ITM of approx 45% and a ROI of approx 40%.

Good luck,

Pulp /images/graemlins/smirk.gif