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Chris Daddy Cool
02-09-2005, 11:41 AM
Suppose I'm a winning 50+5 Party SNG player, with X ROI%.

If I'm a decent to good winner, what's a good X?

And if I'm 3 to 4 tabling a SNG at a time, what is a good range for $/hr?

Tosh
02-09-2005, 11:51 AM
Playing 4+ tables, if you can get 30% you're doing pretty well. I guess that equates to approximately $20 per table per hour.

AtticusFinch
02-09-2005, 12:28 PM
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Playing 4+ tables, if you can get 30% you're doing pretty well. I guess that equates to approximately $20 per table per hour.

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From what I'm told, 30% would be doing extremely well in the 55s, especially when quad tabling. In fact, most of the pros I've talked to have said 25-28% is about the highest sustainable rate.

bball904
02-09-2005, 02:12 PM
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Suppose I'm a winning 50+5 Party SNG player, with X ROI%.

If I'm a decent to good winner, what's a good X?

And if I'm 3 to 4 tabling a SNG at a time, what is a good range for $/hr?

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I consider 20% ROI at the 55's to be very good and 25%+ would be amongst the very best players. At 20%, you're making $11 a table so roughly $44 an hour playing 4 tables. A decent to good winning player might be at 10% ROI and $22/hr.

Tosh
02-09-2005, 02:17 PM
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I consider 20% ROI at the 55's to be very good and 25%+ would be amongst the very best players. At 20%, you're making $11 a table so roughly $44 an hour playing 4 tables. A decent to good winning player might be at 10% ROI and $22/hr.

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Maybe I'm out of touch but 30% at 50's always used to be attainable.

AtticusFinch
02-09-2005, 03:01 PM
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Maybe I'm out of touch but 30% at 50's always used to be attainable.

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It's gotten a lot tougher since so many more players have started pushing more often late.

assron
02-09-2005, 03:08 PM
I beat the 55s for 21%... I'm not the greatest player, I make my fair share of mistakes, but I can run over the weaker 55 tables without much trouble and do fine on the tougher ones. I'd think it'd be pretty tough to beat them for 30% over a long run, and if you can, you've probably made enough and have enough skills to move up -- I did, and I'm not nearly that good.

AtticusFinch
02-09-2005, 03:26 PM
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I beat the 55s for 21%... I'd think it'd be pretty tough to beat them for 30% over a long run, and if you can, you've probably made enough and have enough skills to move up -- I did, and I'm not nearly that good.

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I'm beating them by about 27% right now, but I only have 100 tourneys of data, so I doubt it will last. Still, I'm pretty pleased overall considering I lost my first 11 in a row. But I don't think I'll be ready to move up any time soon. Maybe if I'm still in the 20s after 1000.

I had a 35% roi over about 400 33s prior to that.

Compute your hourly rate as follows:

HR = ROI*Buyin*Tourneys_per_hour

Quad tabling tourneys-per-hour is about 5. So for a good player, conservatively, .2*5*55 = $55/hr, which amounts to $110,000 per year full time. Not a bad deal.