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ACPlayer
02-07-2005, 10:50 AM
What Cheney says:

Cheney does not see theocracy (http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-US-Iraqs-Government.html?oref=login)

What the mullah's reportedly say:

Informed comment (http://www.juancole.com) :
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Even as Cheney was pooh-poohing the notion of Iraqi theocracy, Sistani's close colleague Grand Ayatollah Muhammad Ishaq al-Fayyad said, "We warn officials against a separation of the state and religion." Then Sistani's spokesman came out and said that the Grand Ayatollah Sistani "wants the source of legislation to be Islam."


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Shia demands (http://www.turkishpress.com/world/news.asp?id=050206133139.r7homcqv.xml)
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Iraq's Shiite leader Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani and another top cleric staked out a radical demand that Islam be the sole source of legislation in the country's new constitution.

One cleric issued a statement setting out the position and the spiritual leader of Iraqi Shiites made it known straight away that he backed demands for the Koran to be the reference point for legislation

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Statement from the "Source" ie the four grand Ayatollah's of Najaf

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"All the clerics and the sources of authority, and most of the Muslim Iraqi people, emphatically request the state and the national parliament that Islam be, in the permanent Iraqi constitution, the sole source of legislation in Iraq, and that any article or law be struck from the permanent constitution if it contravenes Islam . . . [this matter] is non-negotiable . . . [we warn against] changing the face of Iraq or separating religion and state, for therein lie dangers that will bring unfortunate results, which is rejected by all the clerics and high religious authorities . . . [We warn against] the dangers of undertaking derisory actions that hurt the feelings of Muslims, such as conscripting Muslim girls and publishing their pictures with foreign military trainers in magazines and daily newspapers . . . That has a negative influence on the government, which stands, today, in the most urgent need of popular support."

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cardcounter0
02-07-2005, 10:53 AM
Then Sistani's spokesman came out and said that the Grand Ayatollah Sistani "wants the source of legislation to be Islam."

No, no, no.

Now this statement "could" mean he wants a theocracy.
But it "could" also mean that he wants Canada to send combat troops.

Pass the kool-aid.
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zaxx19
02-07-2005, 11:59 AM
There are people who claim the primary source for the declaration of Independance the consitution and emancipation proclamation is found in Judeo-Christian scripture....and they have a somewhat compelling arguement.

Islam preaches tolerance, and end to classcism, an end to bigotry, and a sort of socialist regard for those less fortunate than you. If Iraqi law was grounded in these precepts(and perhaps not so much in the minutia of Sharia or obscure passages of the Hadith) than I believe the constitution could both be grounded in Islam-Koran and be quite progressive and democratic.