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carniplant
02-04-2005, 11:54 PM
Really good 2/4 table, only tight player is SB ,all others are really loose, somewhat passive put capable of really weird plays
Hand #1
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Preflop: Hero is UTG with 2/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (7 BB) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

River: (7 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, MP3 checks.

Hand #2
Same table as above, i'd normale fold this pre-flop with good players in.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 3-bets</font>, MP1 folds, Hero calls, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

River: (13.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks.

Hand #3

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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, UTG folds, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

River: (17.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, MP3 folds, Hero ...

utrnbmp3
02-05-2005, 02:27 AM
hand 1) i'd fold to the flop.

mtdoak
02-05-2005, 02:53 AM
Hand #1. Fold preflop. Unless its a crazy loose table (6+ people every flop). A2 suited can win two ways: #1. Hitting two pair and #2. hitting a flush. People play any ace, and your behind every one of them. ITs a marginal hand out of position. Fold fold fold.

Hand #2. Again, fold preflop. Q8s is again a marginal hand. You are in position here, so its not terrible. If you have 5 limpers or so you are probably laying the right odds. 3 is cutting it a little thin. I don't like the turn raise. What do you hope he has here? Yes you improved, but he's not laying down a flush draw and he's not laying down AQ, KQ, QJ or a set. A 3 bet would be tragic here.

#3. I like the preflop play, but after that, ick. On the flop, you can't protect your hand. If you had an overpair, I'd say go for it, but midpair? Anyone with a high spade is calling. Anyone with a jack is calling. What is he going to bet into a monotone flop with on the turn. At least two pair, more likley a straight with a Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif. No one is folding, you have midpair with a 1 card 10 high flush draw and a one card OESD which only has 6 outs. Your 2 tens aren't worth squat. A call isn't terrible but a raise is.

pokerstudAA
02-05-2005, 01:34 PM
Hand 1: Junk. A2s - pitch that crap in the garbage where it belongs.

Hand 2: Also Junk. I would fold this but If you wanted to play J10s here against all the limpers I would raise.

Hand 3: With so many players involed with the hand it is unlikely your TT. The flop raise I do not like good considering you are just building the pot for some one with a better spade draw then your ten and you could be far behind to a JA off with A of spades.