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Chairman Wood

02-04-2005, 07:26 PM

Don't have GT up yet but from my notes I know UTG+1 is Tagish. No other reads. Thoughts on all streets please.
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Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 1 fold, CO calls, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, UTG+1 caps, MP2 calls, CO calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets, MP2 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

Turn: (13 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.

River: (16 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
Hero bets, UTG+1 calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 18 BB
Thanks in advance

bakku

02-04-2005, 07:37 PM

Against a TAG the flop 3-bet seems like chip spewing, nice river.

Chairman Wood

02-04-2005, 07:46 PM

I was hoping I could get him to drop AK? Possible?

Chairman Wood

02-04-2005, 07:56 PM

Also after the 3 bet should I still bet the turn?

Yeknom58

02-04-2005, 08:28 PM

Were you planning on a CR? I would bet or check call the flop.

Chairman Wood

02-04-2005, 08:34 PM

No, it was check and see what happened. I am quite sure tag would lead with anything. I saw an oppurtunity after the raise to reraise and see if UTG+1 would drop AK

Yeknom58

02-04-2005, 08:39 PM

"No, it was check and see what happened"

now I like you play even less.

JackWilson

02-04-2005, 08:46 PM

Well, I think my preferred action would be to bet the flop, since you're very likely going to call a bet anyway. If you get raised by UTG+1 then at least this will probably drive the cutoff out and getting it HU is probably your best chance of winning the hand. If it doesn't drive the cutoff out you can call 1 to see if an A or K comes off and give up if it doesn't since you're almost 95% sure you're beat.

As it turns out, I would definitely have folded after the CO raised. You had no pot odds to draw to outs you weren't even sure were live and it is extremely rare that both the UTG+1 and CO are on total bluffs at this point. If we look at the range of hands the CO could have I would be thinking that TT is a definite possibility, which would be a great hand to raise with on this flop. That's one of the better scenarios. It's very possible he's got you buried with a set (of course as it turned out he didn't but whatever).

It just looks like you put in a lot of bets with probably the worst hand...that can't be right.

mikeyKay

02-04-2005, 09:33 PM

preflop = standard

flop - seems like spewing chips to me...i would prolly lead out so UTG+1 raises and maybe cleans up the field a bit. given your course of action, checking the flop, you have a tough decison with 2 bets back to you. you have 4 clean overcard outs, and your backdoor flush draw...i think its time to let this one go, but im not sure. 1:10 on the call, but UTG+1 might pop it again, and if you do make your hand, you can be outdrawn.

turn-chip spewing, you have no hand, they arent folding, even if you hit your overcards you still cant feel extremely confident about it and extract the most bets. also, you may be able to get a free bee if you check.

river-i guess it looks ok

-mike

Chairman Wood

02-04-2005, 09:33 PM

Orginal plan was check call. Do you think I should lead the flop?