why Alizee?

[Dominic]

I'm just wondering why everyone seems to have latched onto Alizee as their "hot woman du jour."

Is she beautiful? Undoubtedly. Is she the most beautiful woman we've ever seen? Hardly.

So what is it then?

Well, speaking as someone whose work puts him into contact with literally hundres of naked, beautiful girls every month, I can tell you why I find Alizee so irresitable:

She's REAL. She looks and acts like a real girl, not some Baywatch/Playboy/male-fantasy-therefore-UNreal-chick.

Alizee is sexy because she seems like SHE'S choosing to be sexy. She's having fun.

Seriously, I'd choose her over every single girl I've worked with - she's that enticing. Okay, maybe not quite as enticing as Sandra Shine, but I know from firsthand experience what that girl's like.

http://www.amateursgonebad.com/partners/galleries/100007/sandraredlingerie_jv/1

Maybe if I met Alizee, even Sandra Shine would be relegated to 2nd best!

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[jakethebake]

Because there's plenty of animated avatars available...

[brassnuts]

I am weak-minded and she is obviously a spell casting nubile sorceress. Her ass is like her magic wand.

[daryn]

it's not all about the best looking girl in the world man. have you ever seen that girl that you just really liked? far from the best looking, just something about her. life is deep /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[AngryCola]

Because she's French (yes?), and has mastered the art of the ass shake.

[jakethebake]

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has mastered the art of the ass shake.

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When you can snatch the pebble from my hand with your ass, you will have mastered the art of the ass shake.

[Shajen]

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has mastered the art of the ass shake.

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When you can snatch the pebble from my hand with your ass, you will have mastered the art of the ass shake.

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Be careful, I hear she's accidentally removed arms to the elbow with that lethal thing.

Seriously, you guys, I had to block images from your avatars because I couldn't get any work done.

Well done.

[astroglide]

i know french

[Fins]

Because she has my second favorite forum right now.

Was she in Cirque Du Soleil?

Figured I'd get a faster response here.

[wacki]

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Because she has my second favorite forum right now.

Was she in Cirque Du Soleil?

Figured I'd get a faster response here.

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what is your favorite?

[Fins]

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Because she has my second favorite forum right now.

Was she in Cirque Du Soleil?

Figured I'd get a faster response here.

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what is your favorite?

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Is this a trick question?

[Freakin]

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has mastered the art of the ass shake.

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When you can snatch the pebble from my hand with your ass, you will have mastered the art of the ass shake.

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Seriously, you guys, I had to block images from your avatars because I couldn't get any work done.

Well done.

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[BusterStacks]

Actually yes, she is the hottest girl I have ever seen.

[istewart]

There are intangibles. She's also beautiful. And foreign.

[wacki]

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Because she has my second favorite forum right now.



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what is your favorite?

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Is this a trick question?

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I thought you were implying that 2+2 is your 2nd favorite since she is just about everyone's avatar right now.

[AngryCola]

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Actually yes, she is the hottest girl I have ever seen.

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Hmm, this is a heavy statement.

I'm not sure that I can say that, but she's definitely up there.

[PokerCat69]

Alizee is sexy!

[Freakin]

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Actually yes, she is the hottest girl I have ever seen.

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Hmm, this is a heavy statement.

I'm not sure that I can say that, but she's definitely up there.

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I definitely CANNOT say that... i think my standards are ridiculously high.... i find VERY few people attractive.... Last girl I found moderately attractive was Carmela DeCeasere (sp?). Now SHE would make some good avatars....

Freakin

[BusterStacks]

I obviously didn't expect there to be universal agreement, but I stand by my statement.

[AngryCola]

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I obviously didn't expect there to be universal agreement

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Of course not!

I find it tough to really disagee with you though.
There is definitely something about her.

[PokerCat69]

'Beautiful' and 'sexy' are two different things.
Alizee ranks extremely high in both categories. There is a perfect balance between how hot she looks and how sexy she is.

With many women there is an inbalance of those qualities.
They are either very hot but not sexy enough, or very sexy and not hot enough.

[Lazymeatball]

it's the fishy

[ilya]

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why Alizee?

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Because she is/looks underage.

[AngryCola]

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why Alizee?

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Because she is/looks underage.

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Huh?!

Not to me.

She looks to be in her mid-twenties from where I'm standing.

[Ionphore]

You guys are all missing the point of dominic's original post. Obviously Alizee fits the mold for avatars just fine. The real point was to point out he supposedly takes alot of pictures of naked girls. And likes to point that out to people apparently...

[istewart]

hahah

[whiskeytown]

I'd hit it like an illegitimate stepchild /images/graemlins/grin.gif

RB

[JoeC]

Couldn't agree more.

[TenPercenter]

I never heard of her until I saw the second avatar with her, and noticed the name in that user's Location field. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Thought I'd help the cause and see how many people change their avatar. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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[Sincere]

Dude, Sandra Shine is awsome, Alizee has nothing on Sandra, Ive had a hard on for her for a long time. Only prob is that she doesnt do Girl/guy stuff. Only masterbation and Girl/girl, which is cool too, but I'd like to see her get nailed.

[Leo99]

I'll take Alizee. I like squealers more than moaners.

[ThaSaltCracka]

I think part of it is that she looks like the perfect girlfiend type, very very cute girl, with a great face, banging body, but she doesn't come across like a slut. When you look at her, you don't think "oh, she has probably slept with 25 guys". Atleast, this is how she looks to me.

[Sincere]

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I like squealers more than moaners

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But Sandra Shine is so much hotter.

[HesseJam]

She is French, not American. And you feel it.

There was a good article on that subject in Salon.com . Enjoy and learn what you all miss out on:

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What French girls know
Young girls in France learn early in life that happiness is not as important as passion.

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By Debra Ollivier



Jan. 12, 2004 | "I've seen the way you behave with women. In that respect you are totally unreliable, but we could have an interesting life together."
-- Pauline Potter, proposing to her future husband, Baron Philippe de Rothschild

My girlfriend Natalie is not classically pretty, but that's never been a problem. She has a little belly, but she flaunts it. She has a little bit of extra butt. She flaunts that too. She's had her share of romantic encounters, but she's still single, over 35, and has lots of baggage, including a 5-year-old from a previous marriage who's earned the nickname of Rasputin. In many respects Natalie is the perfect candidate for Rachel Greenwald's new book "Find a Husband After 35 Using What I Learned at Harvard Business School." She's perfect except for one thing: Natalie is French.

"I feel sorry for American women," she says over the phone. Natalie is in Paris; I'm in Los Angeles. We're talking on the phone about love, lust, girlhood, womanhood. Somehow we touch on Greenwald's new book, which exhorts women to use the same marketing techniques to find a mate as they would to, say, launch a new brand of tennis shoes. "You, the reader, are the 'product,'" Greenwald writes.

I hear Natalie sigh over 6,000 miles of fiber optic cable. "Only in America could you get away with this type of lunacy. There is so much pressure on American women to be happy. To sweep away all traces of loneliness, to forget who you are in your search for a lover or a spouse. In France young girls learn that happiness is elusive; we learn that happiness is less important than passion."

Natalie's comments remind me of a salient little metaphor: As girls we Americans sit in our field of daisies and pull off petals with, "He loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not." Meanwhile French girls sit in their meadows with their marguerites and pull off petals with: "He loves me a little. A lot. Passionately. Madly. Not at all." Why does the little French girl innately think in nuances and increasing levels of passion while we're mired in the black-and-white of total love or utter rejection?

According to Christophe, a French journalist with a seriously lush history of romance on both sides of the Atlantic: "Everything in your culture is defined like a contract, even the business of love. That's precisely the opposite in France. I've dated French women for months before I ever really knew who they were or what they wanted from me. After the first or second date, the American woman wants everything spelled out: 'Are we dating? Are you my boyfriend or just a friend?' A French woman doesn't do that. She doesn't give much away. She's comfortable letting things evolve naturally, but the ball's almost always in her court."

Natalie concurs with this assessment. "There is a culture in France of the 'non-dit,' the not-spoken. What you don't say in France is as important as what is said. There are boundaries in language that create tensions. Even sexual tensions. The simple act of saying "tu" or "vous" is a boundary that invites intimacy or precludes it. We learn that we have more power when we keep things to ourselves than when we give things away. We learn that the art of seduction is based on innuendo and silences."

Innuendo and silences? This sort of quiet, coded game of love is entirely baffling to us buffoonishly direct Anglos, and it's partly what's kept French women in the sexiness hall of fame for centuries. Never mind haute couture or racy lingerie. French women are a bundle of alluring contradictions that seem to perfectly coexist, like the unlikely mélange of sweet and sour. They're often annoyingly coy and darkly wanton. Many of them are not great beauties and yet are gorgeously compelling in the way they reconcile their imperfections. They tend to be more concerned with experiencing pleasure than with being liked and far more passionate about having a life than making a living. (Multitasking does not rank high on their list of positive attributes in a woman.) Plus they all seem able to walk gracefully in high heels on cobblestones the size of grapefruits. Talk about poise.

This amalgam of qualities has given French femmes a singular sophistication that makes the dictates of Rachel Greenwald seem almost bizarrely childlike. In her classic "The French and Their Ways," Edith Wharton had already singled out this sophistication back in 1919. The French woman "is in nearly all respects, as different as possible from the average American woman," Wharton wrote. "Is it because she dresses better, or knows more about cooking, or is more 'coquettish,' or more 'feminine,' or more emotional, or more 'immoral'? The real reason is not nearly as flattering to our national vanity. It is simply that the French woman is more grown-up. [Wharton's italics.] Compared with the women of France the average American woman is still in kindergarten."

Excusez-moi: Did you say kindergarten? I suppose if Wharton were comparing French and American women over the long course of history, then we Americans would be the innocent toddlers. When I was a girl I used to marvel at French women in history books precisely for this reason. They led armies of querulous men. They were burned at stakes. They got their heads chopped off for being petulant little queens. They were sexy and bellicose and bare-breasted. Even the symbol of the French Republic, the fair-haired Marianne, stormed Paris with (if we take Delacroix's depiction of her as our reference) her impudent and perfectly pulpy breasts exposed. French girls grow up with this legacy of women who were utterly feminine and totally kick-ass; a legacy of bare breasts, revolutions, royal courts, sex, death, blood, guts and great hair. Meanwhile, my generation of American girls grew up with Betty Crocker, Girl Scouts and training bras -- and Julia Child was as French as it got. How unfair is that?

Perhaps American women are ahead of the French when it comes to liberation. "You Americans were grown-up feminists," Natalie says when I bring up Wharton's comments. "We took all of our cues from you. We were incredibly old-fashioned and repressed compared to American women when it came to feminism. But we never confused the power of feminism with the power of femininity, the power of the femme. Being a grown-up to a French woman means being complete, with or without a man, but still being in love with love."

Christophe looks at the question differently. "We're a grown-up culture. America is a super power but historically you're barely adolescent. We were dismissing the Church because of its corruption hundreds of years ago while you Anglos were naively embracing it. History has taught us that you can't rely on dogma or doctrine. Relationships burn brightly, then die. We have our passions, our human tragedies, our loves and our losses. We have a couple of centuries of living and dying over you Americans."

I suppose you have to call a historical spade a spade. We Americans are big, hormonally super-charged 13-year-olds raiding the fridge in quick-fix binges. The French are wizened denizens sipping Bordeaux and plumbing the depths of passion and pathos. To their credit the French, who can be exasperatingly pig-headed and irascible, do have a certain ripened maturity and an insatiable appetite for the harsh realities and curious lusts that characterize matters of the heart. This is partly why the myths of the French mistress and the Latin lover have endured over the centuries. It might also explain why the French are so iconoclastic, even quixotic, in their interpretations of love.

I'm reminded of this sexy, baffling quality about the French time and time again. Most recently, it was while watching the Claire Denis film "Friday Night": Two strangers meet in a car in a traffic jam. They spend nearly the entire film in silence, end up in a hotel, make love rhapsodically, exchange a few words (barely) over pizza, make love again, then say goodbye. What just happened? Our leading lady -- who's not a great beauty but still lovely in an ordinary, je ne sais quoi way -- runs through the streets of Paris at night after her affair. All we know about her is that she's going to move in with her boyfriend. She's just left her mysterious lover in the hotel. Who is he? Will she see him again? Was it a one-night stand or the beginning of a long-term relationship? Our heroine runs down the street toward an unknown future, a liberating and strangely happy glow on her face. She doesn't seem to care. Clearly, Rachel Greenwald would not approve.


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