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07-05-2002, 11:17 AM
open internet hold'em challenge july 2002


here are the basic "rules" - add any suggestions to them as you like, below


you have to start in the 50c-$1 games at paradise with a "separate" bankroll of $40


as soon as you have made $40 you move up to the $1-$2 games


as soon as you make $80 you move up to the $2-$4 games


as soon as you make $80 you move up to the $3-$6 games


as soon as you make $160 you move up to the $5-$10 games


as soon as you make $400 you move up to the $10-$20 games


as soon as you make $400 you move up to the $15-$30 games


as soon as you make $400 you move up to the $20-$40 games


as soon as you make $400 you win the open challenge if you are the first to post here that you have completed the challenge


your bankroll will now be $2000 - buy yourself a silver cup and get it inscribed "open internet hold'em challenge winner july 2002"


any time you lose more than the amount made at the previous level you can choose whether or not to drop back to that level to rebuild your bankroll or to keep playing at that level


if you lose your entire bankroll you must start again with a new $40 at 50c-$1


obviously, the challenge is only a bit of fun and self-refereed on a mutual trust basis - but if you don't mind posting interesting hands encountered and keeping us informed of your progress it will be all the more interesting for the rest of us


i've had a couple of dry runs and i did make it to the $1-$2 tables once


the $20-$40 boys will love to watch us coming to get them, i'm sure


(although no sane person would think this harebrained scheme had anything to do with 2+2, to please mason: this harebrained scheme has nothing to do with 2+2)

07-05-2002, 05:24 PM
I love this challenge. I was doing something similar in the past and I called it the "Paradise Ladder" where I tried to climb the stakes ladder from $0.50/$1 to the $20/$40 summit. I did get to the $15/$30 level once.


I will join the challenge and let you know if I make any respectable progress.

07-05-2002, 05:55 PM
Good luck, Jonathon! Hope we meet at 20-40! (Some hope, unfortunately, in my case. /images/frown.gif )

07-05-2002, 11:52 PM

07-06-2002, 08:07 PM
well, i'm up to $54 after 30 minutes, thanks mainly to one hand:


Game #203225346 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/06-17:11:06 (CST)

Table "Nayau" (real money) -- Seat 10 is the button

Seat 1: shadow27 ($77.50 in chips)

Seat 2: Floydspet ($25.50 in chips)

Seat 3: Mike_Haven ($47.25 in chips)

Seat 4: thor58 ($28 in chips)

Seat 5: CRACY123 ($76.75 in chips)

Seat 6: twinriver ($37.25 in chips)

Seat 7: ImTheCaptain ($66.25 in chips)

Seat 9: jameso98 ($29.50 in chips)

Seat 10: Bipster19 ($8.25 in chips)

Floydspet: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

Mike_Haven: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ As ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Kc ]

thor58 : Fold

CRACY123: Raise ($1)

twinriver: Call ($1)

ImTheCaptain: Call ($1)

jameso98: Call ($1)

Bipster19: Call ($1)

Floydspet: Fold

Mike_Haven: Call ($0.50)

*** FLOP *** : [ 8d 4c Ad ]

Mike_Haven: Check

CRACY123: Check

twinriver: Check

ImTheCaptain: Bet ($0.50)

jameso98: Call ($0.50)

Bipster19: Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise ($1)

CRACY123: Call ($1)

twinriver: Fold

ImTheCaptain: Raise ($1)

jameso98: Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise ($1)

CRACY123: Call ($1)

ImTheCaptain: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 8d 4c Ad ] [ 2s ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

CRACY123: Call ($1)

ImTheCaptain: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ 8d 4c Ad 2s ] [ Qs ]

Mike_Haven: Check

CRACY123: Check

ImTheCaptain: Check

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $15 | Rake: $0.75

Board: [ 8d 4c Ad 2s Qs ]

shadow27 didn't bet

Floydspet lost $0.25 (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $4, collected $15, net +$11 (showed hand) [ As Kc ] (a pair of

aces)

thor58 didn't bet (folded)

CRACY123 lost $4 [ 9d Td ] (high card ace)

twinriver lost $1 (folded)

ImTheCaptain lost $4 [ Ah Jd ] (a pair of aces)

jameso98 lost $1.50 (folded)

Bipster19 lost $1 (folded)

07-06-2002, 08:22 PM
this is the most asinine idea I've ever heard of....and I'm willing to invest $40 of my hard earned tourney winnings into it....LOL -


Funny - and unreal....let me see if I have the BR breakdowns correct


at $40 - .50/100

at $80 - $1/2

at $160 - $2/4

at $240 - 3/6

at $400 - 5/10

at $800 - 10/20

at $1200 - 15/30

at $1600 - 20/40

and at $2000 - post here.


I'll give it a shot (after I blow off $10 on a $10 tourney to get exactly $40) - LOL


RB

07-06-2002, 08:27 PM
you got it


but don't forget the beautiful silver cup waiting for you at the end!


and keep us informed as you climb the stairs

07-07-2002, 08:29 PM
played for nearly an hour - lost a lot of ground at first - went straight down to about $38 from $54 thanks to a couple of "good" hands, for example:


Game #203540001 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/07-17:21:02 (CST)

Table "Majuro" (real money) -- Seat 5 is the button

Seat 1: Infliximab ($9.25 in chips)

Seat 2: wiggin2 ($6.50 in chips)

Seat 4: perogie ($74.25 in chips)

Seat 5: Vanguard ($14.25 in chips)

Seat 6: Toneeche ($43.25 in chips)

Seat 7: Mike_Haven ($54 in chips)

Seat 8: LBAER ($24 in chips)

Seat 10: the_beast10 ($19.50 in chips)

Toneeche: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

Mike_Haven: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 9d ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Qd ]

LBAER : Fold

the_beast10: Fold

Infliximab: Fold

wiggin2 : Fold

perogie : Call ($0.50)

Vanguard: Call ($0.50)

Toneeche: Call ($0.25)

Mike_Haven: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ Td Kd 2d ]

Toneeche: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

perogie : Fold

Vanguard: Call ($0.50)

Toneeche: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ Td Kd 2d ] [ 6d ]

Toneeche: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

Vanguard: Fold

Toneeche: Raise ($2)

Mike_Haven: Raise ($2)

Toneeche: Raise ($2)

Mike_Haven: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ Td Kd 2d 6d ] [ 9h ]

Toneeche: Bet ($1)

Mike_Haven: Call ($1)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $13 | Rake: $0.50

Board: [ Td Kd 2d 6d 9h ]

Infliximab didn't bet (folded)

wiggin2 didn't bet (folded)

perogie lost $0.50 (folded)

Vanguard lost $1 (folded)

Toneeche bet $6, collected $13, net +$7 (showed hand) [ Ad 8s ] (a flush, ace

high)

Mike_Haven lost $6 (showed hand) [ 9d Qd ] (a flush, king high)

LBAER didn't bet (folded)

the_beast10 didn't bet (folded)


but then managed to claw back up to exactly $54 again thanks mainly to hitting a five-outer on the turn:


Game #203550497 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/07-17:54:08 (CST)

Table "Majuro" (real money) -- Seat 6 is the button

Seat 1: AaronLovi ($40 in chips)

Seat 2: Chakammyah ($18.50 in chips)

Seat 3: Wyogold ($52.75 in chips)

Seat 4: perogie ($83.25 in chips)

Seat 5: shadow27 ($71.75 in chips)

Seat 6: Toneeche ($49.50 in chips)

Seat 7: Mike_Haven ($46.25 in chips)

Seat 8: LBAER ($28.25 in chips)

Seat 9: Jason Webb ($17 in chips)

Seat 10: the_beast10 ($35.75 in chips)

Mike_Haven: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

LBAER : Post Big Blind ($0.50)

AaronLovi: Sit out

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Qs ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Ah ]

Jason Webb: Fold

the_beast10: Fold

Chakammyah: Fold

Wyogold : Fold

perogie : Call ($0.50)

shadow27: Call ($0.50)

Toneeche: Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise ($0.75)

LBAER : Call ($0.50)

perogie : Call ($0.50)

shadow27: Call ($0.50)

*** FLOP *** : [ 5h Qd Ks ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

LBAER : Call ($0.50)

perogie : Call ($0.50)

shadow27: Raise ($1)

Mike_Haven: Call ($0.50)

LBAER : Call ($0.50)

perogie : Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 5h Qd Ks ] [ Qc ]

Mike_Haven: Check

LBAER : Check

perogie : Check

shadow27: Bet ($1)

Mike_Haven: Raise ($2)

LBAER : Fold

perogie : Fold

shadow27: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ 5h Qd Ks Qc ] [ 9s ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

shadow27: Call ($1)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $13.50 | Rake: $0.50

Board: [ 5h Qd Ks Qc 9s ]

AaronLovi didn't bet

Chakammyah didn't bet (folded)

Wyogold didn't bet (folded)

perogie lost $2 (folded)

shadow27 lost $5 [ Kh 9c ] (two pair, kings and queens)

Toneeche didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $5, collected $13.50, net +$8.50 (showed hand) [ Qs Ah ] (three

of a kind, queens)

LBAER lost $2 (folded)

Jason Webb didn't bet (folded)

the_beast10 didn't bet (folded)

07-07-2002, 08:36 PM
Why didn't you bet the river? This is upsetting me!

07-07-2002, 08:50 PM
i figured i was up against at least one Ace, so when i ended up with only AAK against a possible AA88, AA44, AA22, or AAQQ, particularly the latter, i decided to check-call to minimise loss or to maximise gain if they bluffed - didn't expect a call if i was winning after the Q hit


the bluff bet didn't come so i lost one bb in the circumstances

07-07-2002, 11:19 PM
I hope you learned something from your turn (and river) play on the first hand, and hopefully dont do that again.

07-08-2002, 06:07 AM
thanks dion


but regrettably, bad news for me, i haven't learned anything - i would play this again the same way tomorrow


if you mean i should have check-raised the turn, i don't think i should have - unless someone had made a flush they wouldn't have bet


if you mean i shouldn't have reraised, i had only the Ad to worry about when he raised - his cap hinted very strongly that he had it, so i just called on the river - i don't think a fold would have been sensible on the river even though i did expect to see the Ad at this point because of his turn cap


would you have just called the turn raise and the the river bet?


on this hand you would have saved two big bets - but on quite a lot of other hands you would have failed to win two big bets (say if he had had the Jd, 8d, maybe 7d, KK, TT, would not a lot of players raise?)

07-08-2002, 02:50 PM
"if you mean i should have check-raised the turn, i don't think i should have "


I agree with that, no problem with betting out, but...


First of, I must admit that I havent played 0.50/1 for a long time, but I suspect that your opponents are quite to very passive. I think a lot of opponents would not raise you on the turn with less than the Jd. And maybe even not the Jd, but that´s possible.


Now you get raised. So either you´re up against the Jd or Ad (because I dont think the 8d will raise, do you? And a KK or TT (unlikely because of the way he played) should realize they´re most likely drawing, so they wouldnt raise either) a re-raise is profitable either if he will still call you down with Jd (but a decent player will probably not if he´s up against a not so tricky player), or you most likely get re-raised and you can safely lay down to a four bet. Maybe the first situation was the case, but the second in your opinion apparently not. Then throw in a little chance that he´s bluffing and I see far more merits in just calling down, i.e. you lose the least when you´re behind (save 2BB), win more if he´s on some kind of bluff (because he might follow up with a river bet, where he would fold to a 3-bet) (0-1BB), and lose only a 1BB (or maybe a bit more, but no much) less when you have the best hand (because if you call he´s very likely to bet the river). So yes, I think calling is better if you cant safely lay down to a 4-bet.


Then you call turn and river after the cap: I think against 99,999% of the players at this limit you can safely lay down to a four bet. But maybe things have considerably changed over the last 1-1.5 years.


BTW, if you can safely laydown to a four bet (thus not making a mistake by doing that), then I prefer 3-betting, folding to a cap, bet the river if he just calls, and fold to a river raise.


"on this hand you would have saved two big bets - but on quite a lot of other hands you would have failed to win two big bets (say if he had had the Jd, 8d, maybe 7d, KK, TT, would not a lot of players raise?)"


So yes, I would have saved two bets, but probably wouldnt have lost two of them, because first I think the 8d, 7d KK and TT are unlikely holdings given his play, and second the Jd would most likely have followed up with a riverbet (therefore only losing 1BB), and even the 8,7,KK, and TT are still possible to bet the river (although less likely).

07-08-2002, 04:28 PM
thank you very much for your analysis - no doubt you are right in many aspects


i guess i got too excited having flopped the second nut flush, and with the straight flush possibility?


i guess i should learn to say although there is only one card that can beat me, because a guy raises at the right time, he must have it?


but i'm still not sure that there aren't a lot of times that some players will raise my turn bet without the nut flush - i didn't have to be betting a flush-draw on the flop - maybe i was forced to bluff a flush when the turn fell? - maybe any turn raise would make me fold a small flush? - it was the reraise that caused me concern - but even once i "knew" what he had, the pot was too big to not call the river, in my book


finally, the very fact that it is only .50-1 means you have to expect bad play and bluffs - i don't think it would surprise regular .50-1 players if either i or he or both of us had shown a low pair at the end

07-08-2002, 07:32 PM
played another hour and managed to drop from $55 to $48 and back to $64 with the help of the following:


Game #203820032 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/08-16:20:54 (CST)

Table "Tahiti" (real money) -- Seat 2 is the button

Seat 1: sailor49 ($22.25 in chips)

Seat 2: GeordieC ($5.25 in chips)

Seat 3: Mike_Haven ($50.25 in chips)

Seat 4: WoodMann ($13 in chips)

Seat 5: Odd Implied ($20 in chips)

Seat 6: Golan ($82 in chips)

Seat 7: cindzzz ($28 in chips)

Seat 8: ljgonz ($32.50 in chips)

Seat 9: eyedoctor ($82.75 in chips)

Seat 10: Blacksmith ($14.25 in chips)

Mike_Haven: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

WoodMann: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 6s ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ As ]

Odd Implied: Fold

cindzzz said, "yes lost 400 bucks on weekend"

Golan : Call ($0.50)

cindzzz : Fold

ljgonz : Call ($0.50)

eyedoctor: Call ($0.50)

Blacksmith: Call ($0.50)

sailor49: Fold

GeordieC: Fold

Mike_Haven said, "not here though?"

Mike_Haven: Call ($0.25)

WoodMann: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ 3s 5d 6d ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

WoodMann: Call ($0.50)

Golan : Fold

ljgonz : Call ($0.50)

eyedoctor: Call ($0.50)

Blacksmith: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 3s 5d 6d ] [ 2h ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

cindzzz said, "was getting beat bad"

WoodMann: Fold

ljgonz : Fold

eyedoctor: Call ($1)

Blacksmith: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ 3s 5d 6d 2h ] [ Qc ]

Mike_Haven said, "serious money"

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

eyedoctor: Call ($1)

Blacksmith: Fold

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $10 | Rake: $0.50

Board: [ 3s 5d 6d 2h Qc ]

sailor49 didn't bet (folded)

GeordieC didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $3, collected $10, net +$7 (showed hand) [ 6s As ] (a pair of

sixes)

WoodMann lost $1 (folded)

Odd Implied didn't bet (folded)

Golan lost $0.50 (folded)

cindzzz didn't bet (folded)

ljgonz lost $1 (folded)

eyedoctor lost $3 [ 6c 7c ] (a pair of sixes)

Blacksmith lost $2 (folded)


Game #203829787 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/08-16:53:50 (CST)

Table "Tahiti" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button

Seat 1: sailor49 ($18.25 in chips)

Seat 2: GeordieC ($40.75 in chips)

Seat 3: Mike_Haven ($55.75 in chips)

Seat 4: WoodMann ($8.75 in chips)

Seat 5: brd4ever ($16.75 in chips)

Seat 6: Risky ($5.25 in chips)

Seat 7: 5card ($25.25 in chips)

Seat 8: cheesier ($13.25 in chips)

Seat 9: taco2 ($19.75 in chips)

Seat 10: Trip Tenz ($19.75 in chips)

GeordieC: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

Mike_Haven: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Th ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 3d ]

WoodMann: Fold

brd4ever: Call ($0.50)

Risky : Fold

5card : Call ($0.50)

cheesier: Fold

taco2 : Fold

Trip Tenz: Fold

sailor49: Call ($0.50)

GeordieC: Fold

Mike_Haven: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ 8d 9d Td ]

Mike_Haven: Check

brd4ever: Check

5card : Check

sailor49: Bet ($0.50)

Mike_Haven: Raise ($1)

brd4ever: Fold

5card : Fold

sailor49: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 8d 9d Td ] [ As ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

sailor49: Fold

Mike_Haven: Winner -- doesn't show cards

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $4.25 | Rake: $0

Board: [ 8d 9d Td As ]

sailor49 lost $1.50 (folded)

GeordieC lost $0.25 (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $2.50, collected $5.25, net +$2.75 [ Th 3d ] (a pair of tens)

WoodMann didn't bet (folded)

brd4ever lost $0.50 (folded)

Risky didn't bet (folded)

5card lost $0.50 (folded)

cheesier didn't bet (folded)

taco2 didn't bet (folded)

Trip Tenz didn't bet (folded)


Game #203829967 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/08-16:54:31 (CST)

Table "Tahiti" (real money) -- Seat 2 is the button

Seat 1: sailor49 ($16.75 in chips)

Seat 2: GeordieC ($40.50 in chips)

Seat 3: Mike_Haven ($58.50 in chips)

Seat 4: WoodMann ($8.75 in chips)

Seat 5: brd4ever ($16.25 in chips)

Seat 6: Risky ($5.25 in chips)

Seat 7: 5card ($24.75 in chips)

Seat 8: cheesier ($13.25 in chips)

Seat 9: taco2 ($19.75 in chips)

Seat 10: Trip Tenz ($19.75 in chips)

Mike_Haven: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

WoodMann: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Qd ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 4d ]

brd4ever: Call ($0.50)

Risky : Fold

5card : Fold

cheesier: Fold

taco2 : Fold

Trip Tenz: Call ($0.50)

sailor49: Fold

GeordieC: Call ($0.50)

Mike_Haven: Call ($0.25)

WoodMann: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ 3s Qh 8d ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

WoodMann: Fold

brd4ever: Call ($0.50)

Trip Tenz: Fold

GeordieC: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 3s Qh 8d ] [ 7s ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

brd4ever: Call ($1)

GeordieC: Fold

*** RIVER *** : [ 3s Qh 8d 7s ] [ 3d ]

Mike_Haven: Check

brd4ever: Check

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $5.75 | Rake: $0.25

Board: [ 3s Qh 8d 7s 3d ]

sailor49 didn't bet (folded)

GeordieC lost $1 (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $2, collected $5.75, net +$3.75 (showed hand) [ Qd 4d ] (two

pair, queens and threes)

WoodMann lost $0.50 (folded)

brd4ever lost $2 [ 7c Ad ] (two pair, sevens and threes)

Risky didn't bet (folded)

5card didn't bet (folded)

cheesier didn't bet (folded)

taco2 didn't bet (folded)

Trip Tenz lost $0.50 (folded)


Game #203830618 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/08-16:56:45 (CST)

Table "Tahiti" (real money) -- Seat 4 is the button

Seat 1: sailor49 ($19.50 in chips)

Seat 2: GeordieC ($39 in chips)

Seat 3: Mike_Haven ($61.75 in chips)

Seat 4: WoodMann ($8 in chips)

Seat 5: brd4ever ($12.75 in chips)

Seat 6: Risky ($5.25 in chips)

Seat 7: 5card ($24.75 in chips)

Seat 8: cheesier ($13.25 in chips)

Seat 9: taco2 ($19.75 in chips)

Seat 10: Trip Tenz ($19.25 in chips)

brd4ever: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

Risky : Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Th ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Ts ]

5card : Fold

cheesier: Fold

taco2 : Fold

Trip Tenz: Fold

sailor49: Fold

GeordieC: Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise ($1)

WoodMann: Fold

brd4ever: Call ($0.75)

Risky : Fold

*** FLOP *** : [ 3c 2h Jc ]

brd4ever: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

brd4ever: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 3c 2h Jc ] [ 4h ]

brd4ever: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

brd4ever: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ 3c 2h Jc 4h ] [ Qh ]

brd4ever: Check

Mike_Haven: Check

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $5.25 | Rake: $0.25

Board: [ 3c 2h Jc 4h Qh ]

sailor49 didn't bet (folded)

GeordieC didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $2.50, collected $5.25, net +$2.75 (showed hand) [ Th Ts ] (a

pair of tens)

WoodMann didn't bet (folded)

brd4ever lost $2.50 (showed hand) [ As 4s ] (a pair of fours)

Risky lost $0.50 (folded)

5card didn't bet (folded)

cheesier didn't bet (folded)

taco2 didn't bet (folded)

Trip Tenz didn't bet (folded)

07-08-2002, 08:36 PM
"i guess i should learn to say although there is only one card that can beat me, because a guy raises at the right time, he must have it? "


This seems like a generalization to me, and is not what I meant. But all boils down to the interpretation of "right time".


Everyone sees that there is a 4 flush on the board, so IMO the raise either means a bluff or a legitimate raise (i.e. with a big flush). Now, again from my experience with bad players (yours might be different) I think if they have a big flush they will only raise with either the Ad or the Jd. Note that even with the Jd they have two bigger flushes to fear (so less likely to raise) whereas you only have one card to fear.


But now look... you dont want to 3-bet against a bluff do you? (except a "bluff" KK or TT, but as I said in my previous post, IMO very unlikely holdings).


So when you say:"but i'm still not sure that there aren't a lot of times that some players will raise my turn bet without the nut flush - i didn't have to be betting a flush-draw on the flop - maybe i was forced to bluff a flush when the turn fell? - maybe any turn raise would make me fold a small flush? "


Then they are essentially on a bluff and you prefer calling to let them hang themselves. (because almost every bluff on this board has very little outs against you).


"- it was the reraise that caused me concern - but even once i "knew" what he had, the pot was too big to not call the river, in my book "


At the point of the cap there are 10.5 BB in the pot. If you call you have to call both turn and river, which he´s very likely to bet after the turn cap. So 2:11.5, or 1:5,75 on calling down. Do you really think you will win more than 1 time in 5,75 times? I dont think so. (not taking your 1 straight flush out into account, but still, you should win about 15% of the times which is very unlikely IMO).

07-08-2002, 09:12 PM
"Then they are essentially on a bluff and you prefer calling to let them hang themselves. (because almost every bluff on this board has very little outs against you)."


if i am right and they are on a "bluff", (and i still have not ruled out hole pairs in this regard), then you infer i should only call - however, they are unlikely to bet the river or call when i didn't fold on their turn bluff, so there is no way they will hang themselves - i want to end it there by reraising or catch an odd call from an optimistic bluffer


if i am wrong and they have the Ad, i find out with my reraise - then i admit if i was SuperFolder perhaps i should fold to their reraise


thanks again for making me think more than act spontaneously

07-09-2002, 08:58 PM
good news! played another hour - everything went well - got stuck at $79 for a while but then hit a house to finish with $82 to complete stage 1 (hopefully for the last time!)


one lucky let-off - folded 77 in early position and kicked myself when 722 flopped - but ended up seing 2222 winning!


Game #204154181 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-18:09:50 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($27.75 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($56.50 in chips)

Seat 3: scorpion397 ($17.25 in chips)

Seat 4: Dr.Bob ($18.50 in chips)

Seat 5: MYAMI ($5.25 in chips)

Seat 6: Predator1 ($96.75 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($31.25 in chips)

Seat 8: Mike_Haven ($77.75 in chips)

Seat 9: TexAg97 ($42 in chips)

Seat 10: DesertEagle ($27.50 in chips)

NIKLER : Post Small Blind ($0.25)

scorpion397: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Ac ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Jd ]

Dr.Bob : Fold

MYAMI : Fold

Predator1: Call ($0.50)

vader447: Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise ($1)

TexAg97 : Fold

DesertEagle: Fold

DeweyFree: Fold

NIKLER : Fold

scorpion397: Call ($0.50)

Predator1: Call ($0.50)

*** FLOP *** : [ As Qd Ad ]

scorpion397: Check

Predator1: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

scorpion397: Fold

Predator1: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ As Qd Ad ] [ Jh ]

Predator1: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

Predator1: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ As Qd Ad Jh ] [ 9s ]

Predator1: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

Predator1: Call ($1)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $8 | Rake: $0.25

Board: [ As Qd Ad Jh 9s ]

DeweyFree didn't bet (folded)

NIKLER lost $0.25 (folded)

scorpion397 lost $1 (folded)

Dr.Bob didn't bet (folded)

MYAMI didn't bet (folded)

Predator1 lost $3.50 [ Qc Ks ] (two pair, aces and queens)

vader447 didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $3.50, collected $8, net +$4.50 (showed hand) [ Ac Jd ] (a full

house, aces full of jacks)

TexAg97 didn't bet (folded)

DesertEagle didn't bet (folded)


Game #204152332 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-18:03:36 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 5 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($27.25 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($60 in chips)

Seat 3: scorpion397 ($19.25 in chips)

Seat 4: Dr.Bob ($19.50 in chips)

Seat 5: MYAMI ($9.25 in chips)

Seat 6: Predator1 ($93 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($26.75 in chips)

Seat 8: Mike_Haven ($78.75 in chips)

Seat 9: TexAg97 ($39 in chips)

Seat 10: DesertEagle ($28.50 in chips)

Predator1: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

vader447: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 7c ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 7h ]

Mike_Haven: Fold

TexAg97 : Fold

DesertEagle: Call ($0.50)

DeweyFree: Fold

NIKLER : Call ($0.50)

scorpion397: Call ($0.50)

Dr.Bob : Call ($0.50)

MYAMI : Call ($0.50)

Predator1: Call ($0.25)

vader447: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ 2h 7d 2c ]

Predator1: Check

vader447: Bet ($0.50)

DesertEagle: Fold

NIKLER : Call ($0.50)

scorpion397: Call ($0.50)

Dr.Bob : Fold

MYAMI : Call ($0.50)

Predator1: Fold

*** TURN *** : [ 2h 7d 2c ] [ 2s ]

vader447: Check

NIKLER : Check

scorpion397: Check

MYAMI : Bet ($1)

vader447: Call ($1)

NIKLER : Call ($1)

scorpion397: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ 2h 7d 2c 2s ] [ Kh ]

vader447: Check

NIKLER : Check

scorpion397: Check

MYAMI : Check

scorpion397 said, "vnh"

DesertEagle said, "nh"

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $9.25 | Rake: $0.25

Board: [ 2h 7d 2c 2s Kh ]

DeweyFree didn't bet (folded)

NIKLER lost $2 [ 3s 3d ] (a full house, twos full of threes)

scorpion397 lost $2 [ As Qs ] (three of a kind, twos)

Dr.Bob lost $0.50 (folded)

MYAMI lost $2 [ 9d 9s ] (a full house, twos full of nines)

Predator1 lost $0.50 (folded)

vader447 bet $2, collected $9.25, net +$7.25 (showed hand) [ 2d 4c ] (four of

a kind, twos)

Mike_Haven didn't bet (folded) [ 7c 7h ] (a full house, sevens full of twos)

TexAg97 didn't bet (folded)

DesertEagle lost $0.50 (folded)


Game #204149853 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-17:55:05 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 6 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($25.25 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($67.50 in chips)

Seat 3: scorpion397 ($18.50 in chips)

Seat 4: Dr.Bob ($13.50 in chips)

Seat 6: Predator1 ($94.50 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($27 in chips)

Seat 8: Mike_Haven ($77 in chips)

Seat 9: TexAg97 ($41.50 in chips)

Seat 10: DesertEagle ($27.50 in chips)

vader447: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

Mike_Haven: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 7h ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 9s ]

TexAg97 : Fold

DesertEagle: Fold

DeweyFree: Fold

NIKLER : Call ($0.50)

scorpion397: Fold

Dr.Bob : Fold

Predator1: Fold

vader447: Fold

Mike_Haven: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ 8h 6c 2s ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

NIKLER : Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 8h 6c 2s ] [ 5h ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

NIKLER : Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ 8h 6c 2s 5h ] [ Qs ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

NIKLER : Fold

Mike_Haven: Winner -- doesn't show cards

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $4.25 | Rake: $0

Board: [ 8h 6c 2s 5h Qs ]

DeweyFree didn't bet (folded)

NIKLER lost $2 (folded)

scorpion397 didn't bet (folded)

Dr.Bob didn't bet (folded)

Predator1 didn't bet (folded)

vader447 lost $0.25 (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $3, collected $5.25, net +$2.25 [ 7h 9s ] (a straight, five

to nine)

TexAg97 didn't bet (folded)

DesertEagle didn't bet (folded)


Game #204146014 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-17:42:20 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($25.75 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($76 in chips)

Seat 3: scorpion397 ($12.50 in chips)

Seat 4: Dr.Bob ($20.75 in chips)

Seat 5: JLDHB ($196.50 in chips)

Seat 6: Predator1 ($101.25 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($21 in chips)

Seat 8: Mike_Haven ($79 in chips)

Seat 9: TexAg97 ($35.50 in chips)

Seat 10: DesertEagle ($28.75 in chips)

NIKLER : Post Small Blind ($0.25)

scorpion397: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 6c ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 6h ]

Dr.Bob : Fold

JLDHB : Fold

Predator1: Call ($0.50)

vader447: Fold

Mike_Haven: Call ($0.50)

TexAg97 : Fold

DesertEagle: Call ($0.50)

DeweyFree: Fold

NIKLER : Call ($0.25)

scorpion397: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ 7s 8c 3c ]

NIKLER : Check

scorpion397: Check

Predator1: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

DesertEagle: Fold

NIKLER : Fold

scorpion397: Call ($0.50)

Predator1: Fold

*** TURN *** : [ 7s 8c 3c ] [ 7c ]

scorpion397: Check

Mike_Haven: Check

*** RIVER *** : [ 7s 8c 3c 7c ] [ Ac ]

scorpion397: Bet ($1)

Mike_Haven: Call ($1)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $5.25 | Rake: $0.25

Board: [ 7s 8c 3c 7c Ac ]

DeweyFree didn't bet (folded)

NIKLER lost $0.50 (folded)

scorpion397 bet $2, collected $5.25, net +$3.25 (showed hand) [ Tc Ah ] (a

flush, ace high)

Dr.Bob didn't bet (folded)

JLDHB didn't bet (folded)

Predator1 lost $0.50 (folded)

vader447 didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven lost $2 [ 6c 6h ] (a flush, ace high)

TexAg97 didn't bet (folded)

DesertEagle lost $0.50 (folded)


Game #204145490 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-17:40:37 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 9 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($26.50 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($80 in chips)

Seat 3: scorpion397 ($12.50 in chips)

Seat 4: Dr.Bob ($20.75 in chips)

Seat 5: JLDHB ($196.50 in chips)

Seat 6: Predator1 ($101.75 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($25 in chips)

Seat 8: Mike_Haven ($70.25 in chips)

Seat 9: TexAg97 ($35.50 in chips)

Seat 10: DesertEagle ($29 in chips)

DesertEagle: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

DeweyFree: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 9h ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Qh ]

NIKLER : Fold

scorpion397: Call ($0.50)

Dr.Bob : Fold

JLDHB : Fold

Predator1: Call ($0.50)

vader447: Call ($0.50)

Mike_Haven: Call ($0.50)

TexAg97 : Fold

DesertEagle: Fold

DeweyFree: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ Ah Kc Th ]

DeweyFree: Check

scorpion397: Bet ($0.50)

Predator1: Fold

vader447: Call ($0.50)

Mike_Haven: Call ($0.50)

DeweyFree: Fold

*** TURN *** : [ Ah Kc Th ] [ 7d ]

scorpion397: Bet ($1)

vader447: Call ($1)

Mike_Haven: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ Ah Kc Th 7d ] [ 3h ]

scorpion397: Bet ($1)

vader447: Call ($1)

Mike_Haven: Raise ($2)

scorpion397: Call ($1)

vader447: Call ($1)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $12.75 | Rake: $0.50

Board: [ Ah Kc Th 7d 3h ]

DeweyFree lost $0.50 (folded)

NIKLER didn't bet (folded)

scorpion397 lost $4 [ Ad 3d ] (two pair, aces and threes)

Dr.Bob didn't bet (folded)

JLDHB didn't bet (folded)

Predator1 lost $0.50 (folded)

vader447 lost $4 [ Jh 8h ] (a flush, ace high)

Mike_Haven bet $4, collected $12.75, net +$8.75 (showed hand) [ 9h Qh ] (a

flush, ace high)

TexAg97 didn't bet (folded)

DesertEagle lost $0.25 (folded)


Game #204142748 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-17:32:06 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 8 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($30.50 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($72.50 in chips)

Seat 3: scorpion397 ($8 in chips)

Seat 5: JLDHB ($199.75 in chips)

Seat 6: Predator1 ($99.50 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($29.25 in chips)

Seat 8: Mike_Haven ($70 in chips)

Seat 9: TexAg97 ($39.50 in chips)

Seat 10: RudyTahuti ($176.50 in chips)

TexAg97 : Post Small Blind ($0.25)

RudyTahuti: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Kd ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Ac ]

DeweyFree: Call ($0.50)

NIKLER : Fold

scorpion397: Fold

JLDHB : Fold

Predator1: Fold

vader447: Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise ($1)

TexAg97 : Fold

RudyTahuti: Fold

DeweyFree: Call ($0.50)

*** FLOP *** : [ Js 5c 7h ]

DeweyFree: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

DeweyFree: Fold

Mike_Haven: Winner -- doesn't show cards

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $2.75 | Rake: $0

Board: [ Js 5c 7h ]

DeweyFree lost $1 (folded)

NIKLER didn't bet (folded)

scorpion397 didn't bet (folded)

JLDHB didn't bet (folded)

Predator1 didn't bet (folded)

vader447 didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $1.50, collected $3.25, net +$1.75 [ Kd Ac ] (high card ace)

TexAg97 lost $0.25 (folded)

RudyTahuti lost $0.50 (folded)


Game #204141427 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-17:27:40 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 10 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($31.75 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($73.50 in chips)

Seat 3: ozball ($31.75 in chips)

Seat 4: astyles ($1 in chips)

Seat 5: JLDHB ($199.50 in chips)

Seat 6: jimmyb335 ($3.25 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($26.75 in chips)

Seat 8: Mike_Haven ($65 in chips)

Seat 9: TexAg97 ($40 in chips)

Seat 10: RudyTahuti ($175.25 in chips)

DeweyFree: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

NIKLER : Post Big Blind ($0.50)

TexAg97 : Sit out

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Ts ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Td ]

ozball : Call ($0.50)

astyles : Raise All-in ($1)

JLDHB : Fold

jimmyb335: Call ($1)

vader447: Fold

Mike_Haven: Raise ($1.50)

RudyTahuti: Fold

DeweyFree: Fold

NIKLER : Fold

ozball : Call ($1)

jimmyb335: Call ($0.50)

*** FLOP *** : [ 6h Js 5s ]

ozball : Check

jimmyb335: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($0.50)

ozball : Fold

jimmyb335: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ 6h Js 5s ] [ Qd ]

jimmyb335: Check

Mike_Haven: Check

*** RIVER *** : [ 6h Js 5s Qd ] [ 5c ]

jimmyb335: Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

jimmyb335: Call ($1)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $4.50 | Side pot 1: $4.50 | Rake: $0.25

Board: [ 6h Js 5s Qd 5c ]

DeweyFree lost $0.25 (folded)

NIKLER lost $0.50 (folded)

ozball lost $1.50 (folded)

astyles lost $1 (showed hand) [ Kh 2c ] (a pair of fives)

JLDHB didn't bet (folded)

jimmyb335 lost $3 [ Ah Kd ] (a pair of fives)

vader447 didn't bet (folded)

Mike_Haven bet $3, collected $9, net +$6 (showed hand) [ Ts Td ] (two pair,

tens and fives)

TexAg97 didn't bet

RudyTahuti didn't bet (folded)

07-09-2002, 09:03 PM
passive huh? /images/wink.gif


Game #204140275 - $0.50/$1 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/09-17:23:48 (CST)

Table "Utupua" (real money) -- Seat 5 is the button

Seat 1: DeweyFree ($28.25 in chips)

Seat 2: NIKLER ($75.75 in chips)

Seat 3: ozball ($31.75 in chips)

Seat 4: astyles ($10 in chips)

Seat 5: justduki ($12.50 in chips)

Seat 6: jimmyb335 ($8.25 in chips)

Seat 7: vader447 ($30 in chips)

Seat 9: ToJoBo123 ($37.50 in chips)

Seat 10: RudyTahuti ($153 in chips)

jimmyb335: Post Small Blind ($0.25)

vader447: Post Big Blind ($0.50)

astyles : Post ($0.50)

Dealing...

ToJoBo123: Call ($0.50)

RudyTahuti: Raise ($1)

DeweyFree: Fold

NIKLER : Fold

ozball : Fold

astyles : Call ($0.50)

justduki: Fold

jimmyb335: Raise ($1.25)

vader447: Call ($1)

ToJoBo123: Call ($1)

RudyTahuti: Raise ($1)

astyles : Call ($1)

jimmyb335: Call ($0.50)

vader447: Call ($0.50)

ToJoBo123: Call ($0.50)

*** FLOP *** : [ Qh 6d Jh ]

jimmyb335: Bet ($0.50)

vader447: Call ($0.50)

ToJoBo123: Call ($0.50)

RudyTahuti: Call ($0.50)

astyles : Raise ($1)

jimmyb335: Call ($0.50)

vader447: Call ($0.50)

ToJoBo123: Call ($0.50)

RudyTahuti: Call ($0.50)

*** TURN *** : [ Qh 6d Jh ] [ 6c ]

jimmyb335: Bet ($1)

vader447: Fold

ToJoBo123: Call ($1)

RudyTahuti: Raise ($2)

astyles : Raise ($3)

jimmyb335: Call ($2)

ToJoBo123: Call ($2)

RudyTahuti: Call ($1)

*** RIVER *** : [ Qh 6d Jh 6c ] [ 8s ]

jimmyb335: Check

ToJoBo123: Check

RudyTahuti: Check

astyles : Bet ($1)

jimmyb335: Call ($1)

ToJoBo123: Call ($1)

RudyTahuti: Call ($1)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $30 | Rake: $1

Board: [ Qh 6d Jh 6c 8s ]

DeweyFree didn't bet (folded)

NIKLER didn't bet (folded)

ozball didn't bet (folded)

astyles lost $7 (showed hand) [ Qs 7d ] (two pair, queens and sixes)

justduki didn't bet (folded)

jimmyb335 lost $7 (showed hand) [ Kh Ks ] (two pair, kings and sixes)

vader447 lost $3 (folded)

ToJoBo123 lost $7 [ 9h 9s ] (two pair, nines and sixes)

RudyTahuti bet $7, collected $30, net +$23 (showed hand) [ As Ac ] (two pair,

aces and sixes)

07-10-2002, 08:29 PM
moved into $1-$2 tonight for about three-quarters of an hour with my $83


managed to hit $100 then called an A5s multi-hand and dropped a dollar


a couple of hands helped:


Game #204431378 - $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/10-17:09:09 (CST)

Table "Santa Isabel" (real money) -- Seat 3 is the button

Seat 1: Mike_Haven ($83 in chips)

Seat 2: bearp ($5.50 in chips)

Seat 3: LCCH729 ($85.75 in chips)

Seat 4: YarBooSux ($41.75 in chips)

Seat 5: BISKIE ($99.75 in chips)

Seat 6: rjb2882 ($86.50 in chips)

Seat 8: AaronLovi ($96.25 in chips)

Seat 9: NFLD1935 ($32.25 in chips)

Seat 10: Kadaver ($83.25 in chips)

YarBooSux: Post Small Blind ($0.50)

BISKIE : Post Big Blind ($1)

Mike_Haven: Post ($1)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 8c ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Js ]

rjb2882 : Call ($1)

AaronLovi: Fold

NFLD1935: Fold

Kadaver : Call ($1)

Mike_Haven: Check

bearp : Fold

LCCH729 : Call ($1)

YarBooSux: Call ($0.50)

BISKIE : Check

*** FLOP *** : [ Qh 5s Jd ]

YarBooSux: Check

BISKIE : Check

rjb2882 : Check

Kadaver : Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($1)

LCCH729 : Fold

YarBooSux: Fold

BISKIE : Fold

rjb2882 : Call ($1)

Kadaver : Fold

*** TURN *** : [ Qh 5s Jd ] [ Qs ]

rjb2882 : Check

Mike_Haven: Bet ($2)

rjb2882 : Call ($2)

*** RIVER *** : [ Qh 5s Jd Qs ] [ As ]

rjb2882 : Check

Mike_Haven: Check

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $11.50 | Rake: $0.50

Board: [ Qh 5s Jd Qs As ]

Mike_Haven bet $4, collected $11.50, net +$7.50 (showed hand) [ 8c Js ] (two

pair, queens and jacks)

bearp didn't bet (folded)

LCCH729 lost $1 (folded)

YarBooSux lost $1 (folded)

BISKIE lost $1 (folded)

rjb2882 lost $4 (showed hand) [ 5h Kh ] (two pair, queens and fives)

Billybeer didn't bet

AaronLovi didn't bet (folded)

NFLD1935 didn't bet (folded)

Kadaver lost $1 (folded)


Game #204438881 - $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/10-17:37:37 (CST)

Table "Santa Isabel" (real money) -- Seat 9 is the button

Seat 1: Mike_Haven ($88.50 in chips)

Seat 2: bearp ($17.25 in chips)

Seat 3: LCCH729 ($97.75 in chips)

Seat 4: YarBooSux ($12.25 in chips)

Seat 5: BISKIE ($88 in chips)

Seat 6: rjb2882 ($107.25 in chips)

Seat 7: Azreal ($53 in chips)

Seat 8: AaronLovi ($87.25 in chips)

Seat 9: NFLD1935 ($31.50 in chips)

Seat 10: OneYuppie ($91 in chips)

OneYuppie: Post Small Blind ($0.50)

Mike_Haven: Post Big Blind ($1)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 3d ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 6s ]

bearp : Fold

LCCH729 : Call ($1)

Mike_Haven said, "n"

YarBooSux: Call ($1)

BISKIE : Fold

rjb2882 : Call ($1)

Azreal : Fold

AaronLovi: Call ($1)

NFLD1935: Call ($1)

OneYuppie: Call ($0.50)

Mike_Haven: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ Jd 6c 6d ]

OneYuppie: Check

Mike_Haven: Check

LCCH729 : Check

YarBooSux: Bet ($1)

rjb2882 : Call ($1)

AaronLovi: Fold

NFLD1935: Call ($1)

OneYuppie: Fold

Mike_Haven: Call ($1)

LCCH729 : Fold

*** TURN *** : [ Jd 6c 6d ] [ Kd ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($2)

YarBooSux: Fold

rjb2882 : Fold

NFLD1935: Call ($2)

*** RIVER *** : [ Jd 6c 6d Kd ] [ Tc ]

Mike_Haven: Bet ($2)

NFLD1935: Call ($2)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $18.25 | Rake: $0.75

Board: [ Jd 6c 6d Kd Tc ]

Mike_Haven bet $6, collected $18.25, net +$12.25 (showed hand) [ 3d 6s ]

(three of a kind, sixes)

bearp didn't bet (folded)

LCCH729 lost $1 (folded)

YarBooSux lost $2 (folded)

BISKIE didn't bet (folded)

rjb2882 lost $2 (folded)

Azreal didn't bet (folded)

AaronLovi lost $1 (folded)

NFLD1935 lost $6 [ Qd Kc ] (two pair, kings and sixes)

OneYuppie lost $1 (folded)


aaron got caught with one:


Game #204432102 - $1/$2 Texas Hold'em - 2002/07/10-17:11:49 (CST)

Table "Santa Isabel" (real money) -- Seat 6 is the button

Seat 1: Mike_Haven ($90.50 in chips)

Seat 2: bearp ($15.50 in chips)

Seat 3: LCCH729 ($82.75 in chips)

Seat 4: YarBooSux ($52 in chips)

Seat 5: BISKIE ($96.25 in chips)

Seat 6: rjb2882 ($80.50 in chips)

Seat 8: AaronLovi ($90.25 in chips)

Seat 9: NFLD1935 ($32.25 in chips)

Seat 10: Kadaver ($82.25 in chips)

AaronLovi: Post Small Blind ($0.50)

NFLD1935: Post Big Blind ($1)

Dealing...

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ 9c ]

Dealt to Mike_Haven [ Tc ]

Kadaver : Fold

Mike_Haven: Fold

bearp : Fold

YarBooSux said, "hard luck"

LCCH729 : Fold

YarBooSux: Call ($1)

BISKIE : Fold

rjb2882 : Call ($1)

AaronLovi: Call ($0.50)

NFLD1935: Check

*** FLOP *** : [ 2d 8c 8d ]

AaronLovi: Check

NFLD1935: Check

YarBooSux: Check

rjb2882 : Check

*** TURN *** : [ 2d 8c 8d ] [ 4h ]

AaronLovi: Bet ($2)

NFLD1935: Fold

YarBooSux: Fold

rjb2882 : Raise ($4)

AaronLovi: Call ($2)

*** RIVER *** : [ 2d 8c 8d 4h ] [ 6c ]

AaronLovi: Check

rjb2882 : Bet ($2)

AaronLovi: Call ($2)

*** SUMMARY ***

Pot: $15.25 | Rake: $0.75

Board: [ 2d 8c 8d 4h 6c ]

Mike_Haven didn't bet (folded) [ 9c Tc ] (a pair of eights)

bearp didn't bet (folded)

LCCH729 didn't bet (folded)

YarBooSux lost $1 (folded)

BISKIE didn't bet (folded)

rjb2882 bet $7, collected $15.25, net +$8.25 (showed hand) [ 8h Ac ] (three of

a kind, eights)

Billybeer didn't bet

AaronLovi lost $7 [ 4d 6d ] (two pair, eights and sixes)

NFLD1935 lost $1 (folded)

Kadaver didn't bet (folded)