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06-30-2002, 04:26 PM
has anyone analyzed the logs of hands to see if the frequency of large hands hitting at the same time matching averages?

06-30-2002, 05:23 PM
What's the "average"? Things like people folding before the river, the betting action, etc... affect this. If the game was showdown poker with 10 players, then yes it would be easy to measure this. But the frequency of large hands hitting at the same time is impossible to measure against what it "should" be without knowing everyone's hole cards.


- Tony

06-30-2002, 05:59 PM
could we not just do tests based on hands shown at the showdown only. Usually when there are 2 or more big hands people call and show anyway, so there wouldn't be a lack of data. Yes, there are people that fold, but we could just not count those (obviously). People mucking good hands online vs B&M should match anyway so it shouldn't affect the test. We could see if the frequency of big hands hitting at the same time match that of B&M, based only on hole cards shown.

06-30-2002, 06:20 PM
The easiest thing would be to get 10 people and play at a paradise .5-1 table and then do tests on the hand histories.

06-30-2002, 08:53 PM
"...but we could just not count those (obviously)"


you have never done any valid statistical research have you? (obviously)

07-01-2002, 04:58 AM
ummm... why do it at a .50-1.00 canuck.. why not at play money tables, and no one folds, and all expose cards..


certainly they would not make the play money tables "honest", but a .50-1.00 "rigged", would they??


one could assimilate lots & lots of data without giving the house a dime, and it would prove it once and for all (the honesty of the game)

07-01-2002, 01:09 PM
"certainly they would not make the play money tables "honest", but a .50-1.00 "rigged", would they??"


why not? what if they had software programmed for play money and software programmed for real money?


personally i would assume that all games, play and real, would run on the same software.