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Broken Glass Can
02-02-2005, 09:38 AM
The content of this article (and the films it describes) is just weird. Agree?

Ten years later, the 'Kids' are definitely not alright (http://www.variety.com/VR1117917076.html)

PARK CITY, Utah An 11-year-old boy spreads his semen over school lockers and repeats his father's filthy epithets when he blows a shot at tennis; a 16-year-old girl hangs her blood-stained sheet on the clothes line to let her father know she's lost her virginity; a 6- or 7-year-old boy proposes an exchange of bodily fluids in an Internet dialogue that might have given the characters in "Closer" pause; a 15-year-old stud becomes the heartthrob of a community's older women; a 14-year-old girl drugs and binds a man twice her age with the intention of castrating him.

These are just a few of the scenes that are being watched with barely a raised eyebrow in new American work at this year's Sundance Film Festival. It wasn't too many years ago that Larry Clark's "Kids" had to be screened here unannounced after midnight due to its explosive revelations of the sex-and-drug-drenched lives of young New York teens, and Miramax had to technically disassociate itself from the picture for fear of protests.

These days, "Kids" would hardly raise a fuss, as it would be one of just a dozen or so films that bluntly explore some of the things young people do when their parents aren't looking.

Artistic currents run in unpredictable ways that may not always directly correlate with what is actually happening in society at a given moment. The incidence of teenage pregnancies is notably lower than the levels of the '90s and, according to at least some polls, teen sex (however you gauge it) may be slightly down as well.

But you wouldn't know it from the movies onscreen at Sundance. Independent filmmakers are forever looking for ways to push the envelope, to give their work that extra edge that will attract buyers and viewers hungry for something new.

Some may also feel compelled, even unconsciously, to become bolder in what they perceive as conservative cultural times. Or perhaps it's the influence of the numerous sexually explicit European films that have been on the fest circuit and in limited release over the past few years.

Whatever the reasons, sex has replaced violence as the new edge this season, at least as far as the independents are concerned. A few examples:


In Noah Baumbach's "The Squid and the Whale," one of the best films in a very mixed-bag dramatic competition this year, a divorced father considers an affair with a student, his older son dithers about whether to bed a "nice" girl or the same, wilder student his father's with, and the 11-ish son reacts to his parents' split by masturbating in the library stacks and marking his territory by smearing the result around school.

In Rebecca Miller's "The Ballad of Jack and Rose," a 16-year-old girl raised alone on an island by her father begins rebelling by abruptly asking a visiting virginal boy to deflower her; when he begs off, she lets that boy's punkish younger brother do the deed, thanking him afterward and then hanging the reddened sheet out to dry for dad's edification.

In Miranda July's deceptively lightweight "Me and You and Everyone We Know," a first-grade-level boy who can barely read manages to type out some simultaneously innocent and outrageous Internet proposals about the possibilities of excrement exchange, while his high school-age brother is the recipient of oral favors from two mid-teen girls who want to know if he can tell the difference between their techniques.

In Melissa Painter's "Steal Me," a 15-year-old boy becomes the Don Juan of a small Montana town, while in Arie Posin's "The Chumscrubber," a high schooler comes on strong to the mother of his girlfriend.

In Mike Binder's "The Upside of Anger," a high school girl flaunts her affair with a much older man in her distraught mother's face.

In Marcos Siega's "Pretty Persuasion," three Beverly Hills high school girls deviously engineer a sexual harassment suit against a teacher by using their sexual wiles.

In Rian Johnson's "Brick," all the high school characters talk and behave like characters out of a Dashiell Hammett novel, with sex entering into the equation just as it would for adults.

On the foreign front, Ziad Doueiri's French picture "Lila Says" centers on a mid-teen girl using sexual power as a significantly older woman might, while Park Chul-soo's new South Korean film "Green Chair" is about the boundary-pushing affair between a 32-year-old woman and a 19-year-old male student, who, under Korean law, is still a minor.

Perhaps most startling is David Slade's "Hard Candy," in which an alarmingly aware 14-year-old girl takes revenge on a man who may or may not have preyed upon underage girls by tying him up and cutting him where it counts. The sexual sophistication of her character, not to mention her wherewithal and cleverness, is way beyond her years.
There may be more examples among the 120-odd features shown at Sundance, but sexual precocity among minors jumped out as the most frequent element found in independent films this year -- more even than such other popular subjects as family dysfunction, political rebellion and ethnic disparities.

Whether this is a sign of something, or merely evidence of young filmmakers' latest notion about a good way to titillate and shock, remains to be seen.

Shajen
02-02-2005, 10:03 AM
agreed.

some [censored] just needs to be left alone.

slickpoppa
02-02-2005, 11:29 AM
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An 11-year-old boy spreads his semen over school lockers

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Boys will be boys

tyfromm
02-02-2005, 02:42 PM
Cool! Thanks for the great list of movies. I'll have to make sure I see these. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

tdarko
02-02-2005, 02:44 PM
agreed, this is [censored] up.

Reef
02-02-2005, 02:46 PM
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Ten years later, the 'Kids' are definitely not alright (http://www.variety.com/VR1117917076.html)

PARK CITY, Utah An 11-year-old boy spreads his semen over school lockers and repeats his father's filthy epithets when he blows a shot at tennis; a 16-year-old girl hangs her blood-stained sheet on the clothes line to let her father know she's lost her virginity; a 6- or 7-year-old boy proposes an exchange of bodily fluids in an Internet dialogue that might have given the characters in "Closer" pause; a 15-year-old stud becomes the heartthrob of a community's older women; a 14-year-old girl drugs and binds a man twice her age with the intention of castrating him.


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what. the. f#ck.

DavidC
02-02-2005, 02:55 PM
I found American Beauty to be pretty risque. I could FEEL the importance of that movie, but other than the really obvious stuff, I think I must have missed a lot of the message in it.

With that in mind, unless these movies are child pornography, I'd be hesitant about judging them without watching them.

A lot of them sound too dark for my tastes though (I'm more of an Amelie, Chocolat, The Thomas Crown Affair kind of guy when it comes to serious movies).

--Dave.

shummie
02-02-2005, 03:04 PM
I just wanted to say how I love that half of the avatars so far in this thread have to do with sex. Animals humping, erect nipples, and a condom.

Edit: more than half... I missed the 'old pimp' and Stewy's ramantic dance going on there.

I'll also say that we don't want to produce art depicting these sorts of activities because we don't want to condone it in our culture. However, at this time, I think we are on the other side of that spectrum. Older people aren't aware how much of a problem we have with under-age sexual activity. These movies will do more to present the acts involved as a problem than they will presenting them as expected and acceptable behavior.

Regards,

tdarko
02-02-2005, 03:19 PM
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I just wanted to say how I love that half of the avatars so far in this thread have to do with sex. Animals humping, erect nipples, and a condom

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your welcome, my avatar had you in mind

AngryCola
02-02-2005, 03:34 PM
You guys should find other things than movies to get shocked about.

I like this quote from DavidC:
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With that in mind, unless these movies are child pornography, I'd be hesitant about judging them without watching them.

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I second that.

Btw, I saw "Kids" when I was a "kid" and I felt it was just controversial for the sake of being controversial.

tdarko
02-02-2005, 04:17 PM
i saw "kids" as a kid as well and didnt see what the problem was. kids do drugs and kids have sex i thought this was understood? now child molestation is another story, that is sickening and not entertaining.

AngryCola
02-02-2005, 04:23 PM
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now child molestation is another story, that is sickening and not entertaining.

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That doesn't mean the topic should be outlawed from all movies.
I imagine there could be some good movies dealing with that issue.

tdarko
02-02-2005, 04:25 PM
true. for instance sleepers was a great movie but it wasnt graphic but it was about molestation. i am talking about movies in which the imagery is "precise."