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Delphin
02-01-2005, 11:02 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t725)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button (Villain)/ (t2707)</font>
SB (t1975)
BB (t2593)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t725 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button (Villain)/ raises to t1150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t2325) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2325) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t2325) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2325

1C5
02-01-2005, 11:04 PM
What is the question?

That looks like a routine push to me. You got unlucky on the flop and lost so you are asking if you should have pushed?

Delphin
02-01-2005, 11:05 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero (t730)</font>
<font color="#C00000">BB (Villain)/ (t2290)</font>
UTG (t915)
MP (t1370)
CO (t1150)
Button (t1545)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t200</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t730 (All-In)</font>, BB (Villain)/ calls t630, MP folds.

Flop: (t1660) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1660) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1660) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1660

Delphin
02-01-2005, 11:07 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t2965)
UTG (t1215)
Button (t1660)
SB (Villain)/ (t2160)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (Villain) raises to t700</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2965 (All-In)</font>, UTG folds, SB (Villain) calls t1460 (All-In).

Flop: (t5325) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t5325) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t5325) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5325

Delphin
02-01-2005, 11:08 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t1170)
Hero (t1155)
UTG (t1315)
MP1 (t1665)
MP2 (t1505)
CO (t700)
Button (Villain)/ (t490)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button (Villain)/ calls t30, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t130</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button (Villain)/ raises to t490 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t360.

Flop: (t1025) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t1025) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: (t1025) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t1025

Delphin
02-01-2005, 11:09 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t740)
SB (t2245)
BB (t1690)
UTG (t880)
Hero (t1450)
CO (Villain) (t995)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1450 (All-In)</font>, CO (Villain) calls t995 (All-In), <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t2745) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t2745) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t2745) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t2745

Delphin
02-01-2005, 11:11 PM
I've been having a bad run and I'd like to know whether I played these bubble hands correctly. These are all Party $10+1 SNGs.

El Maximo
02-01-2005, 11:14 PM
With only a 2bb stack you are going to get called but you dont have any options left.

mungpo
02-02-2005, 12:00 AM
Anyone agree that hand #3 should have been folded, or at the very worst, called?

nnoobi
02-02-2005, 12:06 AM
A2s - a-okay
AJs - a-okay
KQo - fold pre-flop
(you're chip leader on the bubble, let them fight. Even if not chip leader you could easily be third best here - seems like UTG could have small pair or trapping with AA, KK, QQ and the raise could have AK, AQ, or any pair AA-77)
AKo - a-okay (I expect a small/mid pair)
66 - a-okay

I reserve the right to be wrong,

rabbit

jdl22
02-02-2005, 12:54 AM
I agree - fold the KQo, otherwise they're good.

spentrent
02-02-2005, 01:19 AM
Whoa, fold the KQo? No freaking way. With 4 players left KQo is GOLD for that price. You can't read AA|AK from a pre-flop raise at this point in the tournament.

But don't push either; just call. You'll only get called by a better hand. If you hit the flop, get all your money in there. I am NOT folding KQo 4 handed for that price with that stack.

The Yugoslavian
02-02-2005, 01:32 AM
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Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t2965)
UTG (t1215)
Button (t1660)
SB (Villain)/ (t2160)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t200, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (Villain) raises to t700</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2965 (All-In)</font>, UTG folds, SB (Villain) calls t1460 (All-In).

Flop: (t5325) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Turn: (t5325) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t5325) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t5325

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I'd call here. Good chance you're on the wrong side of the 'coin flip' here (~43/57 I'd guess) for an allin. I think folding is probably fine as this won't make or break you. However, you get great value from calling and seeing if you spike a Q or K (almost always giving you the best hand). If he's on a total steal then you'll still have most of your FE from preflop and he may check/fold to you (without risking your whole stack). Not to mention that calling sends a message about at least attempting to defend your blind (I WILL NOT be pushed around!).

I'd rank them calling #1, folding #2, allin #3. BUT I may be a huge moron so YMMV, /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Yugoslav

Pepsquad
02-02-2005, 01:47 AM
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Whoa, fold the KQo? No freaking way. With 4 players left KQo is GOLD for that price. You can't read AA|AK from a pre-flop raise at this point in the tournament.

But don't push either; just call. You'll only get called by a better hand. If you hit the flop, get all your money in there. I am NOT folding KQo 4 handed for that price with that stack.

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Yes fold! KQo is "fools gold" here. Even calling is choosing to ignore obvious opponenet strength. You have a UTG call, a fold and button re-pops it? Cold-calling 700 here with 2 players left to act. What happens if you call and SB/UTG Pushes? (which ironicly appears to be what would have happened in this situation had Hero not pushed since SB called all-in). No thank you. A perfect example of late SNG play where the big stack should get the hell out of the way.

Pep.

Delphin
02-02-2005, 09:28 AM
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I'd rank them calling #1, folding #2, allin #3. BUT I may be a huge moron so YMMV, /images/graemlins/grin.gif.

Yugoslav

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Thanks. I was pretty sure the all-in was a big mistake with KQo here. I'm still not quite sure whether I should have called or folded. Looks like there are mixed opinions...

Delphin
02-02-2005, 09:39 AM
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A2s - a-okay
AJs - a-okay
KQo - fold pre-flop
AKo - a-okay (I expect a small/mid pair)
66 - a-okay


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When I reviewed the HH, the KQo seemed like a big mistake. The others all seem like I got unlucky, but that's been happening a lot lately so I wanted some 2nd opinions.

Results for those interested...

Hand1: <font color="white">Push A2s with 2BB stack, run into AJs</font>
Hand2: <font color="white">Push AJs with 7BB stack, KTs catches a K</font>
Hand3: <font color="white">Reraise KQo all-in with 15BB stack, A5o fills up</font>
Hand4: <font color="white">Push AKo agaist small stack, 55 wins unimproved</font>
Hand5: <font color="white">Push 66 with 7BB stack, AJs catches a J</font>