KQ early on

[schwza]

this is a hand a friend played. it's a 5 + 0.50 at party. no reads on opponents.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

SB (t1755)
BB (t1880)
<font color="#C00000">UTG (t1160)</font>
UTG+1 (t3185)
MP1 (t1310)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t1810)</font>
CO (t940)
Button (t1460)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t30, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t60</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t60, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls t45, BB calls t30, UTG calls t30.

Flop: (t300) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t60</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t250</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t500</font>, SB folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t1100</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls t600.

Turn: (t2750) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t2750) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2750

my opinion in a nutshell was: horrible call pre-flop, but hero is right to get all the money in on the flop (although i'd prefer a raise to T800 or a push rather than to T500).

thoughts?

[ColdestCall]

LOL....I can distinctly remember getting busted like this with KQo early in an SNG more than once....that's why I dont play it anymore, early in a tourny and especially not to EP raisers. I have no idea what the bets and raises mean at the 5 + .5 level, but I can tell you that getting busted with KQ when you flop two pair is not as uncommon as you might think.

FWIW - Once you've taken the flop and hit your two pair, you may as well push the flop.

[realbad101]

I agree with you schwza...

Fold pre-flop. Raise to 800 after the flop. Call the all in.

Looks like hero got outdrawn. I'm guessing the Ace helped villain here and gave him a higher two pair or straight.

[willie24]

for most players, I bet KQ is the single worst hand to play big stack NLHE with. It's just a terrible, awful NL hand.

this is an ugly situation once it gets to the hero on the flop. A push is probably +EV in terms of prize money (especially for a weaker player), but barely. A lot of times you are going to need your 4 outs. Yeah, fine, push.

awful call preflop. never, ever do it.