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admiralfluff
02-01-2005, 06:53 AM
BB has been a fairly loose idiot. He has been playing very straightforward, but has no sense of evaluating his hand. He would, and had, played lie this in similar situations with a pair and up. CO is a LAG, but the turn raise after the flop cap told me he had a big pair. First of all, given the reads, how did I play the hand?

2nd, the results were very surprising. BB had a VPIP of 38, but he had absolute trash, and I really, really would not think he would be capable of making such a stupid series of calls and bluffs. The only thing that makes me think there was a decent chance of it not being collusion, is that they didn't pump the river, but oh man, so crazy.
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Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (14 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (20 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, CO calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23 BB

DBowling
02-01-2005, 08:18 AM
did BB have an 8 in his hand?
doesnt look like collusion at all. bb didnt 3bet the turn, and CO would have raised the river, to allow BB to dump his trash hand (or 3bet then fold to cap)

Mr. Graff
02-01-2005, 08:35 AM
Clearly they were not. There is only one point in this whole hand where they are both raising and even then they don't reraise after your call.

Sarge85
02-01-2005, 12:16 PM
Wouldnt one of them need to dump the hand to the other for it to be collusion?

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lu_hawk
02-01-2005, 12:49 PM
yeah man it is crazy to see someone play aggressively with what looks to be AA. whenever i see this it screams 'collusion'.