dealing with tilt?

[mulebennett]

hi guys, i'm new to the forums here and very anxious to begin posting. well, i play in mostly home games and have lost a couple hundred playing online--but i am getting a little bit better at playing online, so i am playing more aggressively.

anyway, in my home game today i was playing with these kids that i live with and normally i have no problem with them but the one kid that i room with always puts me in a bad mood and i typically avoid playing with him because i often catch a bad beat and piddle away my money.

today he called my raise with Ks5s and i had Ac10c. so i bet after the flop comes Kd5d5h and he turns to me and says "well it might be an early night for me" and pushes all in, so i call and he flips over the boat.

it infuriated me because in a friendly game like this people do not normally talk smack to each other and we enjoy each other's company. i thought it was pretty unsportsmanlike..and i'm not the type to get angered by a check-raise or anything.

so my question to the members of this forum is, what puts you on tilt and how do you deal with it?

[csuf_gambler]

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hi guys, i'm new to the forums here and very anxious to begin posting. well, i play in mostly home games and have lost a couple hundred playing online--but i am getting a little bit better at playing online, so i am playing more aggressively.

anyway, in my home game today i was playing with these kids that i live with and normally i have no problem with them but the one kid that i room with always puts me in a bad mood and i typically avoid playing with him because i often catch a bad beat and piddle away my money.

today he called my raise with Ks5s and i had Ac10c. so i bet after the flop comes Kd5d5h and he turns to me and says "well it might be an early night for me" and pushes all in, so i call and he flips over the boat.

it infuriated me because in a friendly game like this people do not normally talk smack to each other and we enjoy each other's company. i thought it was pretty unsportsmanlike..and i'm not the type to get angered by a check-raise or anything.

so my question to the members of this forum is, what puts you on tilt and how do you deal with it?

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1. thats an easy fold, why did you call.

2. the more you play, the better you will be able to deal with sh1t at the poker table. nothing fazes me anymore. tilt is no longer part of my vocaburauly. im a fuking machine.

[YTV]

I dont even consider it real poker UNLESS someone is talking smack.

Why on earth would you cll that bet?

[walterberk]

Yeah seriously, why would you call that?? In other news I played last night for the first time in a while and I held about 5 good hands all night (finished 4th out of 9). Didn't even have a hand good enough to bluff with. It was frustrating to say the least. I just realized that this post means nothing.

[mulebennett]

i was just trying to make a play and was somewhat trapped as i was acting before he was. i didn't figure he'd call a medium sized bet preflop (we played with 5 people) with K 5 offsuit...

[Bodhi]

what puts me on tilt is when I call all-in with AT on a board of K55.

What I'm saying is that you were already tilting if you made this play--it was a clear fold.

[Bodhi]

Never bluff at a bad player. You can't "make a play" at someone who doesn't have the discipline to fold. You're playing in the kind of game where you just have to win with the best hand, period.

[jack spade23]

First, while everone else has said it, and you know it, it was a bad call. But you recognize it now im sure. There is something i like to call the x factor when playing with college or high school players who are just in it cause its a fad. It means that they have no preflop discipline and will make plays that make no sense to a good player. After I take a beat where my Queens get cracked by 5 7 off, i simply ask first 'is there anything else I could have done" and secondly tell myself "its ok, its just the x factor, youre making money in the long run"

[mulebennett]

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First, while everone else has said it, and you know it, it was a bad call. But you recognize it now im sure. There is something i like to call the x factor when playing with college or high school players who are just in it cause its a fad. It means that they have no preflop discipline and will make plays that make no sense to a good player. After I take a beat where my Queens get cracked by 5 7 off, i simply ask first 'is there anything else I could have done" and secondly tell myself "its ok, its just the x factor, youre making money in the long run"

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that's true..i went in there knowing that this is the type of kid who will call anything in hopes of catching a miracle flop... i play with a few decent players and one outstanding player (for my age range, at least), and the outstanding player will get into everybody's heads and leave with all the chips. the kid who called that bet preflop with K 5 offsuit simply got lucky, there's nothing i can do about it... i was walking into a monster.

[Bodhi]

Yes but you MUST CONFRONT THE FACT that something was wrong before you even played that hand. Take responsibility for what happened and say to yourself: "I was upset because I don't like the way so and so plays. My poor emotional state caused me to deny reality and that's how I lost. In the future I will not play with so and so unless I am calm and rational."

It's hard to do, probably the hardest thing in the game. Once you learn to recognize those situations where you went into denial, you can stop them in the future before you lose your money. You have to observe yourself like you're your own best friend and be aware of emprical evidence of tilting. Good luck.

[warewulf]

Usually there's more trash talk at a 'friendly' home game than in a casino game. If someone realizes they can needle you and push you towards tilt, they'll do it every time.

After a bad beat, if you are shaken up, take a walk and sit out a few hands. Think about what you did. If you made a mistake, try to learn from it and DONT DO IT AGAIN.

[RackOChips]

Here's what you need to think about. You raised pre flop, got heads up with a bad player and led out on a flop of K55. I don't think there's anything wong with that. However, when a bad players says "I guess it will be an early night," and then re-raises all in red flags and alarms should sounded immediately. There's no way a bad player will make a weak statement like that while he's bluffing. Probably no way he re-raises all in with only a king, he at least has a 5. Easy muck.

I suck at spotting tells. I've been trying for many years and rarely get a glimpse of a physical movement that keys me into whether a player is bluffing or not. BUT, the one tell that easiest to spot and is 100% accurate (among new or bad players) is when someone sighs with a bit of sadness, shruggs their shoulders in disappointment, and then re-raises you. This kind of gesture CAN only mean one thing. Monster alert, buddy.

[CaptLego]

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What I'm saying is that you were already tilting if you made this play--it was a clear fold.

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Bingo. That's the way I interpreted his post in the first place. He doesn't like this guy. The guy infuriates him. He desparately wanted to beat this guy, and so he let his personal emotional state cloud his judgment so severely that he made a terrible call. He was on tilt.