How's my line here? A 10 10 hand.

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I know, should'a raised the river...argh! What else?

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Preflop: Hero is CO with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero checks.

River: (9.25 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

[Entity]

Call the flop, don't raise. Turn is good. River raise is close, really depends on what you know about UTG.

[zuluking]

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Call the flop, don't raise. Turn is good. River raise is close, really depends on what you know about UTG.

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Raised for the free turn card. At least, that was my thinking during the hand. No read on the guy, I still think I should'a raised the river.

[dblgutshot]

Anyone else like 3-betting preflop?

[Entity]

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Anyone else like 3-betting preflop?

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I mix it up with TT, but yeah, I usually 3-bet preflop.

Rob

[chesspain]

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Call the flop, don't raise. Turn is good. River raise is close, really depends on what you know about UTG.

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Raised for the free turn card. At least, that was my thinking during the hand.

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Exposing yourself to a very possible three-bet when you hold a one card gutshot and backdoor flush draw to the third nut flush isn't good.

[captZEEbo1]

I don't like 3betting after the utg+2 cold-call

[zuluking]

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Anyone else like 3-betting preflop?

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I mix it up with TT, but yeah, I usually 3-bet preflop.

Rob

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No read, no 3-bet. Auto-raise if he's loosey-goosey for sure.

[Entity]

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Call the flop, don't raise. Turn is good. River raise is close, really depends on what you know about UTG.

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Raised for the free turn card. At least, that was my thinking during the hand. No read on the guy, I still think I should'a raised the river.

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You're going to get 3-bet far more often than you'll get a free card.

Rob

[zuluking]

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Call the flop, don't raise. Turn is good. River raise is close, really depends on what you know about UTG.

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Raised for the free turn card. At least, that was my thinking during the hand. No read on the guy, I still think I should'a raised the river.

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You're going to get 3-bet far more often than you'll get a free card.

Rob

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Ugh, okay thanks guys.

[Entity]

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Anyone else like 3-betting preflop?

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I mix it up with TT, but yeah, I usually 3-bet preflop.

Rob

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No read, no 3-bet. Auto-raise if he's loosey-goosey for sure.

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That's the same way I play the river. You've got a caller subsidizing some of your losses if you get 3-bet, but when you get 3-bet, it'll be by the Q/images/graemlins/club.gif or a boat way too often for you to be happy. Closing the action, I think a call here is fine.

Rob

[ErrantNight]

i 3-bet TT standaldry ple-frop. and arter my pray situationarry. TT ist g00t.

don't laise the frop, but you've realned that arleady.

livel laise is crose. arthough you feal onry the queen of crubs, the hands that carr you and you beat ale few. and you'le not going to rike getting 3-bet.

[deadmunny]

Possible 3-bet pre-flop... is what experts say, But I would have done the same as you, I like the post-flop raise (something I would do) to see the free river...... raise the river I am not sure ? UTG has check/called all the way and NOW he bets out with four /images/graemlins/club.gifs showing? I would just call too.

Regards D

[ghostface]

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i 3-bet TT standaldry ple-frop. and arter my pray situationarry. TT ist g00t.

don't laise the frop, but you've realned that arleady.

livel laise is crose. arthough you feal onry the queen of crubs, the hands that carr you and you beat ale few. and you'le not going to rike getting 3-bet.

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Drunk or being funny?