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elanto
01-30-2005, 04:08 PM
guys in how many ways did i mess up in this hand? all feedback will be appreciated

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PokerStars Game #1131323213: Tournament #4448252, Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2005/01/26 - 22:26:08 (ET)
Table '4448252 1' Seat #7 is the button
Seat 2: - (1015 in chips)
Seat 3: -(2020 in chips)
Seat 5: Villan (2905 in chips)
Seat 6: - (1375 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (1360 in chips)
Seat 8: - (1600 in chips)
Seat 9: - (1725 in chips)
zenbitz: posts small blind 15
ripptyde: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to elanto [Kd Qh]
-: folds
-: folds
Villan: raises 60 to 90
-: folds
Hero: calls 90
-: folds
-: folds
*** FLOP *** [Ah Jc Jd]
Villan: checks
Hero: checks
*** TURN *** [Ah Jc Jd] [7h]
Villan: checks
Hero: checks
*** RIVER *** [Ah Jc Jd 7h] [Ts]
Villan: bets 200
Hero: raises 400 to 600
Villan: raises 2215 to 2815 and is all-in
Hero: calls 670 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villan: shows [Ad Ac] (a full house, Aces full of Jacks)
Hero: shows [Kd Qh] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
elanto said, "omg"
Villan collected 2765 from pot

-anto

elanto
01-30-2005, 04:11 PM
I couldnt get the hand converter to work, this was the best I could do I apolagize in advance


-anto

snowmen
01-30-2005, 04:31 PM
First of all he raised the pot so he should have something. Then when both of you see the flop , he could have missed so he checked , you checked ,same in the turn and the ten landed in the river.He raised!! and you went all-in.This is a awful move for your side imho. He could held TT , same hand like you , AJ , JJ , AA(some people know what slowply is) or even nothing or other low hands with that flop like KK or QQ.I think a call was a must in the river.Good luck and be careful next time.

microbet
01-30-2005, 04:34 PM
You called pre-flop. KQ is questionable enough to limp or make a raise with, let alone call a raise at this point.

I guess the river is just a call. He could have AK, KK, QQ, AQ or some hand you beat and you might pick up a couple hundred more with him calling, but if he has you beat with AA, JJ, JT, TT, etc you probably can't fold to the reraise so you lose all your chips. So maybe you are 60/40 to win here, but probably not a good raise.

Still a tough one. When I first thought about my answer I was thinking it was about 50/50 to call or raise.

elanto
01-30-2005, 04:46 PM
Yes i was kicking myself for calling pre flop with Kq but this guy was raising every two or three hands so he could have anything, I actually thought he had AK or AQ, but I now understand that i shouldnt have re raised AI on the river b/c the only hand that would call me is a hand that had me beat, I should have just called, but live and learn I guess.


-anto

p.s. thanks for the replies guys

microbet
01-30-2005, 05:06 PM
I don't think your opponant played it well though. If he had bet something on the turn he would have likely gotten called by a straight or flush draw that would have folded if they missed the river. The Jack would just have likely come over the top on the turn, and if the river made a straight or a flush the Jack would have been less likely to raise.