Poker Tracker stats

[nugget247]

I've been playing .5/1 on Party Poker for about 6 months now, and I just started using poker tracker this week (most of my hand logs got deleted). This program would be a lot more useful if I had some numbers to compare my win rates to. Can anybody provide me with their BBWon/100 hands at this level to give me an idea of where I stand? This may be a dumb question if you have the same screen name here as on party poker and don't want to divulge such information, but I figured I'd ask anyway.

Thanks

[Harv72b]

Welcome to the forum. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

If you do a Search on "pokertracker" or "stats" or some such, you'll find quite a few threads like this one, many of which will have discussions on win rates. As a basic rule of thumb, anything in the 1.5 BB/100 hands area is considered pretty good, and somewhere in the 3-4 BB/100 is widely perceived to be the highest sustainable win rate. For .5/1 Party you might be able to nudge those numbers up a little, but not too much.

Remember that you literally need hundreds of thousands of hands to get a precise picture of your true win rate.

You might want to check out the Books/Software forum on this site or the PokerTracker forums (there's a link on the "Help" pulldown in the software) for more discussion on PokerTracker itself, or the microlimits forum for talk about .5/1 limit hold'em. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[gmanko]

In one of the 2+2 books (Gambling for a Living, I think) there is a chart of how much you can expect to win at each level depending on how good/selective of a player you are.

It doesn't go down to very small limits, but around 2/bb per hour is the highest I remember seeing. Of course online they deal about twice as many hands per hour, so I think 4 BB/hour is a reasonable amount for an excellent player, which would work out to be 6-7 BB/100 hands.

[Harv72b]

The problem with just doubling the expected win rate for online vs. B&M games is that online games are generally much tighter. Seeing 6 players to the flop on a consistent basis is a rare exception online, but is fairly routine in a live game. You'll also see a lot more bluffing & semibluffing online, which makes it more difficult to play hands like TPMK, not to mention your draws.

[SamIAm]

Here's my standard starting-guide (http://www.bet-the-pot.com/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page &PAGE_id=31&MMN_position=26:26) for folk new to PokerTracker.

-Sam

[nugget247]

Thanks for the information. It's actually kinda depressing since I'm hovering around 10 BB/100 through 3000 hands. I don't consider myself an excellent player, so the probability says I'm due to take a big hit. I should just cash out now /images/graemlins/cool.gif

Thanks again
Mike

[gmanko]

I've noticed that too, but have only been in live casinos for one week last year so I didnt know if it was just the crowd those days or what.

I've been finding online to be much tougher than that week, and I've improved my game since then. I guess it must be due to the increased player pool that brings in the better competition.

I wonder if that means a good online player would have a good chance in the B&Ms (in the absence of extreme tells such as jumping out of your chair and screaming "Give it to me, baby", like every time I flop the nuts)?