Help me determine denominations

[The Armchair]

I am thinking of buying a set of 650 Nexgen chips to replace my 500 dice chips. Available colors: White, Red, Blue, Green, Black, Yellow, Purple.

We typically play .25/.50 NL ($25 buyin) but also the occassional tournament -- 6 to 20 players, T1000 given out.

I'm going to label the chips with denominations, but not with dollar signs. I therefore can use the greens as quarters (ring games) or $25 (tourneys).

Right now, $150 in white ($1) chips and 100 .25 chips is a good start for our cash games -- we rarely use more than 5 or 10 red ($5) chips.

What mix of colors should I use? And what denomination should purple, blue, and yellow represent?

[Cin0s3]

When I do labels the most commom requests in order of denominations for me goes:
White
Red
Blue
Green
Yellow
Purple
Black

in that order,lowest to highest.

[The Armchair]

I'm more interested in chip quantity per denom. (And I already emailed you about labels.)

[CaptLego]

First, I'd suggest checking out homepokertourney.com

For a 650 chips set, I'd suggest going with at most 4 colors. If you were to start your set with green chips (the traditional color for $25), you could use those for $.25 in cash games, and $25 in tourneys. Then add blacks for $1 (cash) or $100 (tourneys). Make most of your chips these two colors. Then add some $5 / $500 chips (yellow). Top it off with a few purple chips (maybe leave these without denoms, or make them 1000 or 2500). Then scale up the tourney to be T5000, with commensurate increases in the starting blinds.

Voila -- the same set is used for cash and tourneys, and you can support the max number of players (or give each player the max number of chips).

[RackOChips]

I just bought a set of 500. My breakdown is:
175 Green (.25/25)
175 Black (1.00/100)
100 Purple (5.00/500)
50 Yellow (10.00/1000)

I also plan to add custom labels, and I will likely add the $ sign. The players should be smart enough to know that in our .25/.50 .50-1 game, the greens are not $25.

[Fins]

Just a couple thoughts...

I might go with blue instead of white and may consider having one non-denom (yellow?).

If you go with 5/25/100/500/non-denom you'll have a good range for $=tourneys & ¢=cash games.

Since you play 25¢/50¢ NL games my even consider not have any wht or blu $1's and just use the blks as $1's. Any really if that's your stakes might even go further and drop the reds and play tourney's like a Foxwoods schedule and get pur & ylw for 500/1000 rather than blu (or wht) & red for 1/5.

- Fins

[smoore]

Here's the 550 nexgen set I just ordered, it will free my crappier chips up to be tournament only. I'm confident this breakdown will serve up to 8 players playing any game desired for ~$25 buyins and should be able to handle 10 playing .10/.25NLHE which is our norm. We play anything from $25 NLHE to 1/2 draw or stud.

Red $0.05 75
Green $0.25 225
Black $1.00 200
Purple $5.00 40
Yellow $20.00 10

The'll fit in an elite 550 case for travel and cost me about $200 labeled, shipped and cased in the elite. I'm going to get 40 purple and 10 more yellow to complete 6 racks. Rock.

I figure if I ever have a higher limit game where we're playing 1/2NL or 2/4 draw I'll buy a set of custom chipcos or something /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[The Armchair]

I really don't want to have $100 chips representing a buck. I'm going for 650 chips instead of 500 mostly so I can get 150 $1 white chips.

What we currently do in our tourneys involves Red (5), Green (25), Black (100), and Blue (500) chips. The breakdown is:
1 Blue
3 Black
7 Green
5 Red

If I were to have 20 players -- rare, if ever happening -- I'd be able to run the tourney with 150 greens and 100 reds (you never color up reds). And I don't mind using whites if need be. Lets say 200 green, on the safe side.

If we have $25 buy-in NLHE (cash) ring games, I need to have $250 minimum in white+green. I already have 50 in green given the setup as above. That leaves room for 200 white.

So, 200 white, 100 red, 200 green. 150 more. 100 black ($100) and 50 purple ($500)? And not use the yellow chips at all?

[ricochet420]

I ordered a sample set of the nexgens, and I think for the price, I'm gonna have to order 750 with This case!!! (http://www.5stardeal.com/deals/10Expand.asp?ProductCode=10-PC750). For a total of 263.69 shipped. Good deal?

I will probably order
250 of the white and use them as 5$
250 of the red and use them as 25$
150 of the black and use them as 100$
100 of the purple and use them as 500$

I am seriously considering the traditional red=5,G=25,Bk=100,Prp=500, but I REALLY like the white better than the green./images/graemlins/confused.gif

I have no idea. There's usually only 6-8 of us and we usually do a couple of tourneys followed by a cash game. Usually twice a month. I been figuring and and all that crap, and I still don't know. I hate only giving people like 10 of these 4 of these 2 of those and 1 of this, for 17 starting chips. I will probably give everyone 20@5, 20@25, 14@100, 6@500, for a total of T5000 and 60 actual chips to start. Sorry for the highjack, but what do you guys think of this??????

[Arsene Lupin III]

When do you need $5 chips with a $5000 buyin?

[ricochet420]

well, I was thinking to start the blinds at 5/10, but that would probably be too small huh?

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[Caruso329]

Most definitely too small.. I would start blinds out at 25/50 or 50/100.

My breakdown is going as follows for my 550 set I'm ordering from 5star (Nexgens):

150 white (0.10/t25)
150 red (0.25/t50)
100 blue (1.00/t100)
50 green (2.50/t500)
50 black (5.00/t1000)
25 purple (for shuffling or other tournament purposes ie bonus chip won when busting another player worth $ at end of tourney)
25 yellow (same as purple)

The most I'm probably going to be hosting is 8-10. Tournaments will probably use
t250 in white = 10 chips * 10 = 100
t500 in red = 10 chips * 10 = 100
blue t1000 = 10 chips * 10 = 100
green t1000 = 2 chips * 10 = 20
with blinds starting at 25/50

Cash games would be .10/.25 blinds with a max buy-in of $25
If 10 people bought in for the max buy-in here is how I would distribute chips:

1.5 in white = 15 chips * 10 = 150
3.50 in red = 14 chips * 10 = 140
5.00 in blue = 5 chips * 10 = 50
10.00 in green = 4 chips * 10 = 40
5.00 in black = 1 chip * 10 = 10

[smoore]

IMHO .10/.25 and 2.50/5.00 are too close in value. Always make the next chip worth a factor of four or five.

1-5-25-100-500-1000-5000
...
seems to be the most popular because it's how a casino does it.

I personally ditch the 1000 and 5000 chips. Make a single 2000 color (4x the 500 chip) and specify a 10,000 chip if neccesary.

[smoore]

oh yeah... 5/10 blinds with a 5000 buy in would be an all-day tournament... 8 to 12 hours depending on player skill and blind structure. You could definitely make it last all weekend if you tried.

[Caruso329]

so using a casino's standards (1-5-25-100-500-1000-5000) could you suggest a breakdown for a good starting tournament chip stack?

Also, for a cash game with .10/.25 blinds, what increments would you recommend?

[smoore]

here's what I ended up with for my travel set, I have a few extra when I'm at my house:

150 - red - 5c (5)
225 - green - 25c (25)
225 - black - $1 (100)
75 - purple - $5 (500)
25 - yellow - $20 (2000)
700 Total

Casino employees understand it. 10 people easily in a $25 .10/.25 game. I could have 30 people in a $20 stack freezeout. I could *probably* do a 15 person $20 rebuy with enough chips as there are about 60 $20 buy-ins with this set (stretching it).

I'd start with 0.05/0.10 blinds. I like to have the $$ amount equal the chip amount for these little tournaments. We buy in for $10? We get $10 in chips, same blind structure. $5? it's even faster with the same structure. Hell, I'll even play for $2, but we use the same structure.

I figured out my structure and colors over the past four months with my cheapie diamond/faux clay set. I like it so I ordered a set that matched it in nexgens.