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krazyace5
01-27-2005, 07:11 PM
I put villian on the flush draw, figured he woulda checked flop if he flopped it. I do raise AJ preflop once in awhile.

On the turn I thought he probably had a J with a weaker kicker.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG ($45)
Button ($96.25)
SB ($26.6)
Hero ($117.41)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $1, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $3</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $3, UTG folds.

Turn: ($10) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, Button calls $6.

River: ($34) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, Button calls $25.

Final Pot: $84

soah
01-27-2005, 07:14 PM
Why would you slowplay this hand on this board?

elnino12
01-27-2005, 07:14 PM
Need more info about villain...but without any, I put him on KJ with K /images/graemlins/club.gif, a straight (10/9), or a small flush...one of which you beat.

amoeba
01-27-2005, 07:17 PM
what is your reasoning for raising the turn?

krazyace5
01-27-2005, 07:19 PM
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Why would you slowplay this hand on this board?

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I guess I was wanting to see if anyone hit the flush, when villain raised and everyone else folded I put villain on a flush draw, I didn't want to reraise because I wanted to see the turn cheaply. Once I saw the turn I wanted to shut his flush draw down.

Also didn't have much of a read on villain.

Also see I should have reraised more on turn to shut the flush draw out, correct?

Kaz The Original
01-27-2005, 07:22 PM
He's drawing. Not you.

DBowling
01-27-2005, 07:23 PM
flopped straight?

edit: he raises if he had a set and turned a boat.

Jay36489
01-27-2005, 07:54 PM
My guess is straight. Hes not playing too aggresive since there's a flush on the board. Although his large river call may not make sense if he is on the str8.

suspicious_mind
01-27-2005, 08:26 PM
He could have anything on the flop.
Straight, flush, full house, flush draw, 2 pairs, 1 pair, bluff etc. I don't think you can rule out a flush just because he bets the flop.

Why didn't you bet the turn if you thought he was drawing? did you think he would try and represent the J?
I think giving away a free card here could kill you, he might just check behind with 9T, flush draw etc so unless you had a read he would try and represent the J I think you should bet the turn.

I don't think making a bigger check-raise on the turn is a good idea beacuse if a 9, T or club hits on the river you might be bluffed out of the hand. I would prefer too keep the pot a bit smaller especially since you might not have the best hand.

What would you have done if you were raised on the river?

Overall I think you played it pretty good, I might have played it differently but I think the way you played is fine especially since this is shorthanded and they are usually pretty loose-agressive

TheWorstPlayer
01-27-2005, 08:44 PM
I think not raising AJ four handed is pretty bad.

krazyace5
01-27-2005, 08:48 PM
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I think not raising AJ four handed is pretty bad.

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Yeah I think I still play tighter than I should.

TheWorstPlayer
01-27-2005, 08:55 PM
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I think not raising AJ four handed is pretty bad.

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Yeah I think I still play tighter than I should.

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That's not tight, it's passive. I feel like a dictionary around here.

krazyace5
01-27-2005, 09:00 PM
Theres a leak, I think I am tight but I am really passive, lol.

TheWorstPlayer
01-27-2005, 09:03 PM
Getting the label wrong is obviously not such a big deal. Understanding the concepts is a bigger deal. And being passive playing short handed is a huge deal.

krazyace5
01-27-2005, 09:29 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 max, 4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG ($45)
Button ($96.25)
SB ($26.6)
Hero ($117.41)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls $1, Button calls $1, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($4) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $3</font>, SB folds, Hero calls $3, UTG folds.

Turn: ($10) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, Button calls $6.

River: ($34) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, Button calls $25.

Final Pot: $84

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Jd As (three of a kind, jacks).
Button has 9h Th (straight, jack high).
Outcome: Button wins $84. </font>