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Jay36489
01-26-2005, 06:27 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $.5 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG+1 ($84.7)
MP1 ($78.4)
MP2 ($64.6)
Hero ($23.75)
CO ($15.5)
Button ($12.75)
SB ($28.2)
BB ($53.8)
UTG ($35.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO folds, Button folds, SB (poster) folds, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $21</font>

hero?

Villian is 42% VPIP, 8% PFR, 3.5% ave post flop agg

fishfeet
01-26-2005, 06:28 PM
Have any reads on your opponent?
Its not TOO hard of a laydown if hes a solid player. He opens with a raise and reraises.
Would he make the same play with JJ, 1010, ect?

Jay36489
01-26-2005, 06:29 PM
I edited to add my PT read.

wbrumfiel
01-26-2005, 06:31 PM
I dont think I'd min raise with QQ if I was going to raise. Then when its raised to $21 I'd probably fold and look for a different hand to take his stack with. You are dominated by AA and KK and are a little better than a coinflip with AK. Of course it all depends on your read (if any) of the player as well. If he is extremely loose then I might fathom a call.

Burno
01-26-2005, 10:01 PM
I'm folding, but I'd feel a lot better about it if I'd raised to $7 or $8 and he still re-raised.

Kaz The Original
01-26-2005, 10:10 PM
You're actually MUCH better than a coin flop vs AK if you see a flop. None the less I lay this down.

TrailofTears
01-26-2005, 10:19 PM
Bingo.

TheWorstPlayer
01-26-2005, 11:25 PM
#1. I hope this happens to you every time you min-reraise.
#2. I'm never folding QQ preflop at Party NL25. If I raise and someone re-raises and I re-re-raise and they push, I'm calling. You just see WAY too much re-raise and re-re-raise with KJ, A6, etc.

Kaz The Original
01-26-2005, 11:38 PM
Bingo #2.

steaknshake925
01-27-2005, 12:37 AM
Villain is &gt;40% VPIP. Even without the PT read I would call this at Party 25NL. Probably not at 50NL though.

Jay36489
01-27-2005, 08:02 PM
Results: I pushed, he called, neither of us improved and he showed KK. Looking back I acknoledge the reraise was weak. I'm still not sure about pushing with this. I really only fear AA and KK (unlikely), im a coinflip against AK, and I think with those stats he might have pushed with less (in which case I am far ahead). Perhaps the push wasn't a bad move, but more a marginal one.