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gaming_mouse
01-25-2005, 06:34 PM
What is considered

1. A lows attempt to steal blind %
2. Avg?
3. High?

Thanks,
gm

sthief09
01-25-2005, 06:35 PM
you'll need a lot of ahnds to get a good sample, but assuming you do, I'd say <17 is low, >33 is high, and 25 is about "average"

gaming_mouse
01-25-2005, 06:41 PM
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you'll need a lot of ahnds to get a good sample, but assuming you do, I'd say <17 is low, >33 is high, and 25 is about "average"

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Good point. So as a player view stat, this is pretty worthless?

Lost Wages
01-25-2005, 06:51 PM
If you used the HEPFAP default of 66/A2s/K9s/Q9s/J8s/T8s/97s/86s/76s/65s/54s/ATo/KTo/QTo/JTo or better, you would be raising 23%.

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gaming_mouse
01-25-2005, 07:27 PM
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If you used the HEPFAP default of 66/A2s/K9s/Q9s/J8s/T8s/97s/86s/76s/65s/54s/ATo/KTo/QTo/JTo or better, you would be raising 23%.


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Yes. I'd forgot about that. Page number?

Thanks,
gm

stoxtrader
01-25-2005, 09:31 PM
this is a VERY important stat, but doesnt converge too quickly. to get an idea of the numbers involved, look at you DB hand numbers and then check your steal stats on the more details page.

another relevant detail nobody mentioned is the blind structure. Not that many pay attention to this so you maybe cannot base reads/hand ranges on it, but you should - My steal percentage in the party 15 is roughly 40%ish, which is high. but i bet it would be low 30s in the 3/6.

risk 6 to win 4? or 30 to win 25? oversimplistic, surely..but certainly part of the whole equation.

Lurker4
01-25-2005, 09:44 PM
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another relevant detail nobody mentioned is the blind structure. Not that many pay attention to this so you maybe cannot base reads/hand ranges on it, but you should - My steal percentage in the party 15 is roughly 40%ish, which is high. but i bet it would be low 30s in the 3/6.

risk 6 to win 4? or 30 to win 25? oversimplistic, surely..but certainly part of the whole equation.

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Not sure if my reasoning is correct, but wouldn't this difference be to some extent offset by the range of hands SB will call a steal with? Since 3/6 has a 1/3 blind structure and 15/30 has a 2/3 blind structure, in general SB will not call w/as many hands at 3/6 than at 15/30, so then at 3/6 you'd be risking 6 to have a higher % chance of winning 4, while at 15/30 you'd be risking 30 to have a lower chance of winning 25.

stoxtrader
01-26-2005, 12:09 PM
Yes, ASSUMING SB is a good player, his range will change as well. I don't think it zeros out though, given positional advantage for the rest of the hand.