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CDSNUTSINYAMOUTH
01-25-2005, 03:43 AM
Figure you guys can give some clarification on sklansky's TOP page 248-249. Sklansky gives an example of getting 3 aces in draw poker. You open for 5 bucks and someone check raises you from a player UTG who initially checked. The decision is now to re raise or call. Sklansky says you opponent would only be doing this play with three of a kind or better, and you know that there is a 65% chance he has 3 of a kind which is not going to be better than your 3 aces. He says it's better to wait to check raise after the draw because you win $30 instead of $25. However, he also says the 35% chance that he has a pat hand you save 5 bucks. How do you save here? He says you lose only $10 instead of $15. How are you saving by waiting for the next round to check raise on a more expensive street ?

DrPhysic
01-25-2005, 04:48 AM
You fold if he draws no cards?

Doc

CDSNUTSINYAMOUTH
01-25-2005, 02:57 PM
the article doesn't mention about any folding if he doesn't draw for any cards. in fact sklansky even mentions when your opponent draws for cards, which doens't make sense. This isn't just the only section in theory of poker that doesn't make any sense. Sklansky needs to do a better at WRITING and explaining to lay people.

willie24
01-27-2005, 04:58 PM
OK- you have 2 options before the draw: call, or reraise.

If you reraise:
35% of the time you will be behind and will lose money by reraising
65% of the time you will be ahead and will gain $5 by reraising

If you call AND he draws 2 cards:
you will draw 1 card, representing 2 pair, and then check-raise after the draw. if he has not hit a fullhouse you will gain $10 by playing the hand this way. (AAA will beat his unimproved-trips every time).

if you call AND he stands pat- you will draw 2 cards and check-call if you don't hit your fullhouse- thus saving yourself a total of $5 (actually $10 if you assume he would reraise predraw with a pat hand) compared to if you had reraised predraw and then check-called postdraw

thus you save when you are behind, and make more when you are ahead.

It makes sense to me. I think his writing is fine.