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I suppose that if you played a lifetime of hold'em, the internet lets us play many more hands than normally possible, you will NOT see it all. I have seen the craziest things already and I have only logged about 20,000 hands online. I was delt pocket aces 12 times in less than 4 hours and have gone hundreds of hands without seeing a single ace. I see posts that encourage us to believe that deals are fixed to pump rake, well this is possible. Not exactly likely, but possible.


I am only suggesting that with SOOO many loose player with no casino to be embarrassed about learning poker in, you will see a lot of rivers that make you say hmmm. As far as the deal being fixed, maybe. I will just play the cards I’m delt to the maximum playable odds. If I have to muck a hand because the flop was dangerous, that is just what I have to do. 50 - 80 hands per hour will give to the opportunity to tell a bunch of stories, it is unlikely that there is cheating on the part of any online casino, IMO. The very definition of random leave open the opportunity for many outcomes and you will just have to consider the fact that you should have folded your aces when the turn comes with 5 opponents raise and reraises you pair. Top pair - top kicker is not the most powerful hand vs multiple opponents who are all drawing to a bigger hand.


I am not a significant poker winner like some on this forum, but this talk about fixed deals is as fishy as half the players who are at the tables we play on. The only difference between ten years ago and now is we now have a local forum where hundreds of players from all over the world can come together and share their bad-beat stories and conspiracies theories instead of sharing stories on how to beat these faster, high-variance, loose games where anything can happen and usually does.

Good post and I agree with you.

I also would like to say that I do not think that collusion is a huge problem and believe that an internet casino can and will stop it from happening.

But, I also think it is possible that some of these sites could be skimming a little, by having a player of "theirs" at the table, or something else to make a little extra. If I was the lord of a huge internet casino operated from Costa Rica I would definitely take a little more than just the rake in those games. However, I believe that they are subtle enough so that good players can still profit in their games.

I'll probably get flamed for that last paragraph but as of this writing, I am up $700 online since I started playing six months ago and I consider myself a competent, but not outstanding player. The reason I suggest a subtle amount of foul play is because I think they'd be stupid not to do it since they can so easily get away with it and make a bit more money doing it. Most big money operations have something fishy about them and one would be naive to disagree with me on that.

well speedy u r right on target!!! the universe of numbers out there may even be biger - it may even be imposable for a healthy person playing 2 hands at a time on the internet to recieve his/her exact correct share of all possable hands in a normal lifetime - just to confuse u reamber the odds of ANY EXACT 5 cards are the same as a royal flush in spades. those who say it's rigged have just had a bad night, and need tu find a reason there good play lost.there are and always will be colluders - it will forever be a battle between them and us and the sites. i think we need right now 2 worry most about the damned ol law makers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Robert-try cashing in a couple of times,then play like you know how. Then give us your analysis of low limit on line poker.

Paradise makes $20,000+ per hour from the rakes alone.


The funniest thing they do is charge $10 for a $100 buyin tournament and $1 for a $5 buyin tournament. Seems to me the same software runs both tournaments, there's no reason to charge more for one tournament over another.

I have cashed out a few times on both PP & PS -- I have seen no difference -- I think that the issue could be that you are skimming off the profits, hitting a bad streak, and then claiming it must be rigged -- you expect that there will be no down turn for you at all.


I do NOT see how/or why any poker room online would jack around with the software -- they make plenty as it is -- if they were, they would not last long at all.


I personally believe that people want to blame ANYTHING but their play when they lose...I know for a fact that I played my AA just fine, and NO, I don't think it was rigged when the flop came 6XX, turn A, river 6, and he showed down 66. Why? Cause I have also caught an AA when the flop came KAX, turn X, and the river K -- I showed him quad kings to his Aces over Kings....

I have cashed out a couple times already for $500 at a time. The reason I'm only up $700 is because my first few months playing I lost quite a bit of money because I didn't understand the fundamentals of good play. Lately things have gotten much better.

To whoever says they make $20K/hr, why would they need to cheat? Well, if they can make it 25K by cheating a little why not? I would, especially since it would be virtually undetectable.


I keep hearing that PP has the toughest games, that may be from $10-20 up but for the most part the play is horrendous, as horrendous as the cardrooms I've played in, maybe not quite as horrendous as low-limit casino play.

u can and will experience WILD swings at PP p- pay attention, also keep ur cashouts @5 were ever u play. good luck. u assume the basic dishonisty of man. kinda like being born in sin etc. etc. there are crooks enough 2 go around but i know to many honest people to say that anyone who can steal would doso. i feel pp is square , yes 2 much to loose by risking dishonisty is a deterent. i think they are wallowing in $$$$$ and have other things on there mind than clipping you. just a differnce in basic philosophy i suspect- any way - good luck again