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Schizo
01-21-2005, 09:17 PM
Table selection, was this good? Or am I misapplying the principles.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (11 SB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG calls, Hero calls.

River: (11.50 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

The 2 guys behind me had a VP$IP of 17 and 14.

Evan
01-21-2005, 09:21 PM
Its fine.

What does it have to do with table selection? Having tighter players on your left is a good idea if that's what you're asking.

Niediam
01-21-2005, 09:33 PM
Generally I'd just call preflop there unless the table is especially loose. But I have no issue with the raise if you thought it would buy the button. The rest of the hand was played well.

EDIT: clarified that I was talking about preflop

Schizo
01-21-2005, 09:42 PM
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Its fine.

What does it have to do with table selection? Having tighter players on your left is a good idea if that's what you're asking.

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A nothumb/GoT joke. Technically a wrong term, I know.

Btw, since you are UBB retarded (your own words) you might want to try the Instant code buttons.

Evan
01-21-2005, 09:42 PM
With overcards, an open ender, the chance to get a free card and the chance to fold dominating overs a raise is better than a call.

Schizo
01-21-2005, 09:45 PM
So is the raise better than calling or about the same?

Evan
01-21-2005, 09:46 PM
Ah, I see. I was sleeping while most of that thread was going on.

As for the UBB code. I use the buttons, I make the link, it looks fine in the preview, then I post it and it turns out all long and ugly. I've given up on it now. bdk3clash turned me on to tiny url's last week so I think I'm set now.

Evan
01-21-2005, 09:47 PM
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So is the raise better than calling or about the same?

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...a raise is better than a call.

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Schizo
01-21-2005, 10:00 PM
Wow, you not only told me the answer, but you told me why. I don't know how I missed that. Guess multitabling and 2+2 is too much. Just curious, how many tables do you have while playing. Also, how many monitors do you have? I'm thinknig about buying a second for poker. I have the $$ now. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Evan
01-21-2005, 10:09 PM
I play 3 tables of 6 max and I have 2 monitors (a 20" and a 17").

Schizo
01-21-2005, 10:19 PM
20" LCD or CRT? That sounds pricy...

bdk3clash
01-21-2005, 10:20 PM
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bdk3clash turned me on

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Evan
01-21-2005, 10:22 PM
They're both LCD's. The 20" is the 2001fp that a lot of 2+2ers have.

SinCityGuy
01-21-2005, 10:22 PM
Excellent play on the flop. The pot is large.

The pot is more than large enough to call with your gutshot and queen overcard. By raising, you might knock out KQ or AQ, possibly buying two clean outs. Since you knocked out all of the players behind you, you might get a free card on the turn (although it didn't happen this time).

Plays like this will add to your bottom line in the long run.

Evan
01-21-2005, 10:23 PM
Oops, was I supposed to be quiet about that brah?

pyroponic
01-22-2005, 04:51 AM
I don't understand if i'm missing something, but many posts in here I see people raising for free cards on the flop in middle position.

What is the point in this? With an open end straght draw i'm pretty sure you are trying to take down the pot with your hand no matter what your opponents hold if you make your hand. By raising on the flop from that early of a position I would think you are knocking people who are dead money. I wouldn't even want to raise to by a queen as an out as someone suggested because the board is coordinated plus you're not in the greatest position plus it makes hands like Q9 or JT a hand. Hell you could probably already be up against 2 pair.

I think calling on the flop is the best move, is my reasoning correct here?

edtost
01-22-2005, 04:58 AM
buying the button is a wonderful thing.

Niediam
01-22-2005, 04:59 AM
Don't forget that you also may knock people out who 1) have a better kicker if you hit one of your over cards and 2)pick up a better straight draw on the turn if you make your straight.

Kirg
01-22-2005, 06:34 AM
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Generally I'd just call preflop there unless the table is especially loose. But I have no issue with the raise if you thought it would buy the button. The rest of the hand was played well.

EDIT: clarified that I was talking about preflop

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Hero didn't raise preflop

Niediam
01-22-2005, 01:25 PM
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Generally I'd just call preflop there unless the table is especially loose. But I have no issue with the raise if you thought it would buy the button. The rest of the hand was played well.

EDIT: clarified that I was talking about preflop

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Hero didn't raise preflop

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Perhaps it's time for me to get a nice pair of glasses. /images/graemlins/blush.gif Thanks.

rewt75
01-22-2005, 03:52 PM
nice hand