View Full Version : He called me with jack high!
TheJackal
01-21-2005, 02:26 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)
MP2 (t21946)
MP3 (t22755)
CO (t26595)
Button (t27133)
SB (t30167)
Hero (t8536)
UTG (t20645)
UTG+1 (t10838)
MP1 (t38820)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t3600</font>, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO calls t3600, Button calls t3600, SB folds, Hero calls t2400.
Flop: (t13800) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t23458 (All-In)</font>, Hero calls t4861 (All-In), UTG+1 folds, CO folds.
Turn: (t42119) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
River: (t42119) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
Final Pot: t42119
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 9d Jh (one pair, sevens).
Button has 9s Ts (one pair, sevens).
Outcome: Hero wins t23522. Button wins t18597. </font>
schwza
01-21-2005, 02:29 PM
eww... i'd muck pre-flop against a utg+1 raiser. you'd still have 6 bb's after folding - not total desperation time yet.
Potowame
01-21-2005, 02:37 PM
Prime example why you dont try to steal a SS blind. /images/graemlins/grin.gif
TheJackal
01-21-2005, 02:37 PM
Getting 6:1 on your call you fold? I wasn't too worried about placing in the money, I wanted to win. With the blinds increasing, I couldn't just sit and wait for a premium hand that may or may not come while in the process blind off my chips.
schwza
01-21-2005, 02:44 PM
if you for some reason insist on playing it, i think you have to raise all-in.
you don't want to put in t3600 and fold for your last t4800. you don't want a lot of people to see the flop for 3600 and then fold if they miss. and if you go all-in and then utg+1 raises all-in behind you, you have a chance at knocking out one or two of the other callers and playing with their dead money in the pot.
yes, technically you are getting 6:1 on your money. but that's really deceptive. if you had put in a big raise, got reraised all-in and could play a heads up pot at 6:1, that's one thing. but here the only reason you're getting "good" odds is that you're going to the flop against 3 opponents, all of whom stand to have better starting hands than you.
but i think folding is better than either calling or pushing. i'd much rather muck here and raise all-in with any 2 next time it's folded to me.
freehat
01-21-2005, 02:45 PM
first to act after the flop, you should of pushed, increasing your folding equity
He called me with jack high!
Is that what villian typed in the chat box? /images/graemlins/smile.gif
TheJackal
01-21-2005, 02:47 PM
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He called me with jack high!
Is that what villian typed in the chat box?
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LOL, no he didn't.
TheJackal
01-21-2005, 02:52 PM
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first to act after the flop, you should of pushed, increasing your folding equity
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4.8k into a 14k pot I wouldn't consider to have a lot of folding equity, since 2 other people called an UTG raise, I wanted to see what UTG and everyone else was going to do before acting on my hand. I actually had good relative position to the raiser, which was a plus for me in the hand. I already decided in my mind I was going to play it all in once I saw that flop. Once the button moved in, it was point of no return, although once UTG checked, I knew he had squat.
freehat
01-21-2005, 03:05 PM
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first to act after the flop, you should of pushed, increasing your folding equity
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4.8k into a 14k pot I wouldn't consider to have a lot of folding equity, since 2 other people called an UTG raise, I wanted to see what UTG and everyone else was going to do before acting on my hand. I actually had good relative position to the raiser, which was a plus for me in the hand. I already decided in my mind I was going to play it all in once I saw that flop. Once the button moved in, it was point of no return, although once UTG checked, I knew he had squat.
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Oh I agree with your play, given that you checked the flop as this an autocall with this flop, but i still think the tiny bit of folding equity that you have ~%5 is still significant enough to make up for the tradeoff of getting extra callers or a free card that you gain by checking.
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