KOTZ vs WSOP Champion!

[Mike Haven]

KOTZ vs WSOP Champion!

With the greatest of thanks for the original suggestion by Fmonti, I know you will all be delighted to hear that at long last I have managed to set up the HU Match that we've all been waiting for!

Our very own reigning King of the Zoo, Sheriff Fatman, and the reigning World Champion, Greg Raymer, (fossilman), have agreed to play a special one-off Match of the Year at Pokerstars, tomorrow, Friday 21st January 2005, at 9.00pmEST, (2.00am for the UK). It will be NLHE, $100 Buy-in, and Sheriff Fatman has told me that if (when!) he wins, he will be donating the $200 to the Tsunami Fund.

An enormous thank you has to go out to Greg Raymer, as he has been travelling virtually non-stop since before Christmas, when we first started to arrange things, and he is using one of his only three evenings off to show his respect for the achievement of Sheriff Fatman in becoming the 2004 King of the Zoo against some of the most consistently tough opponents on the internet.

Everyone in the Zoo is invited to come along to watch and cheer on the two players. This is the one that all future KOTZ entrants will be talking about and hoping is repeated for them in the years to come, so don't miss it!

[TylerD]

Awesome, go Sheriff!

[Sheriff Fatman]

Just wanted to add my personal note of thanks to Greg for sparing the time to do this.

I can't wait and hope to do the Zoo proud! No doubt if I fail to do so you'll all be reminding me about it for the next year or so! /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Sheriff

[ipp147]

Good luck Sheriff. Do the UK proud!

[steeser]

Awesome, don't think I'll be able to watch but enjoy.

[VinnyTheFish]

This is the best thing since the "Freeroll!"

[Adde]

KOTZ vs WSOP Champion!

Fantastic idea, Mike!

Adde

[GrannyMae]

BEYOND amazing

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(go sheriff)

[mmbt0ne]

Can we get someone to collect both of their hand histories and put it up somewhere final-table style with all hole card exposed? I'd really like to see that, even though I'll definitely be watching the showdown.

[Bubu]

Sweet. Talk about community spirit. Makes me proud.

[morgant]

i have $50 on the sheriff. my zoo pride is outshining my patriotic spirit. any takers on an even money bet?

first response is my counterpart.

[moondogg]

[ QUOTE ]
i have $50 on the sheriff. my zoo pride is outshining my patriotic spirit. any takers on an even money bet?

first response is my counterpart.

[/ QUOTE ]

I'll take it.

(I don't have an expectation about the winner, I just like to gamboool!)

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
you'll all be reminding me about it for the next year or so! /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

No. Much, much longer than that.

[Toro]

Will it be in the "Special" tourney section? I don't see it listed there.

[Mike Haven]

It's hot off the press, so I am not sure yet. Greg has e-mailed Lee Jones for a private table to be set up for them.

I've asked both Greg and Sheriff if they would be so kind as to request and e-mail me their hand histories. If they will, I can amalgamate the two records so that we can see all downcards.

[eMarkM]

Sweet! Wish I had thought of it. Thanks for arranging it. I hope I will be able to come by and watch.

I will email this message to the distribution list shortly.

[AngryCola]

I don't do much sweating, but I'll be there for this one.

[eMarkM]

nm

[Mike Haven]

I see that it is now listed in the "Private" Tournament section.

[Sheriff Fatman]

Its now set up as a Private tournament on Stars - tourney number 4743288, 2004 WSOP Champ vs 2004 "Zoo" Champ.

Format is 2,500 starting chips (1,000 more than usual), 10 minute blind levels (standard).

Glad to see the interest level is so high, although its making me more nervous!!! A prolonged period of hiding may be in order if things do not go to plan!

Sheriff

[Sponger15SB]

If you can't beat a world champion, who can you beat...

FISH!

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
Its now set up as a Private tournament on Stars - tourney number 4743288, 2004 WSOP Champ vs 2004 "Zoo" Champ.

Format is 2,500 starting chips (1,000 more than usual), 10 minute blind levels (standard).

[/ QUOTE ]

If they can do this, they HAVE to find a way to set up SHOE or HORSE tournaments. That's what a true Zoo heads-up match should be, a rotating game.

[eMarkM]

Well, we'll just have to make it a series of HU matches then /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[MicroBob]

This is all really cool.


And I like the usage of the word 'amalgamate'.



If Greg wins will he do the same hands-raised-Yaaaaaaaaaaa-scream that he did at the WSOP??

can he set up a cyber-cam so we can see proof of this?


I would think a win in something like this would be AT LEAST as euphoric for him as the WSOP.
I mean...he is going heads-up with The King afterall.


good luck Sherriff.

[TheMetetron]

I'll watch I suppose... good break from working.

[Hiding]

[ QUOTE ]
A prolonged period of hiding may be in order if things do not go to plan!

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey! i don't swing that way!

But seriously, good luck to you both! But, go Sheriff!

[nolanfan34]

[ QUOTE ]
Well, we'll just have to make it a series of HU matches then /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I'm bummed I'm going to miss this, but I'll be on a plane to Reno at the time. /images/graemlins/mad.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[daryn]

gl sheriff..

btw, if you win i think greg owes you 5 mil /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[deacsoft]

Good luck Sheriff. It was a pleasure meeting you out in Vegas a few weeks ago. I'll be watching and cheering for you.

[Lawrence Ng]

My money is on Raymer. $50. Even money - Who's up? PM me.

Lawrence

[HavanaBanana]

Thanks Mike for the HeadsUp!

I used to be the captain og a HULA team, and the way I decided who to pick for my team was to pick anybody who seemed serious about learning.
I did not mind if a player had lacking experience.
My team did pretty well, and only finished second to the Crazy Canucks, but we won all the money /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Sheriff Fatman application to join the team is below, hope you do not mind me posting it.
It appears that studying and hard work pays off, I guess that is the case with Greg too.


[ QUOTE ]
From: Sheriff Fatman

Havana

I'd be interested in playing this - it would fit well into my strategy of focusing on SnG's at present.

I can't say much more about my commitment than the fact that in the short time I've been on this board I've played in the KotZ events, Zoo vs SS, OIC (heavily) & 2+2 SnG's. Most of these involve late nights (I'm in the UK) and even the small matter of a full-time job haven't kept me away from them!

More importantly, my number of SnG 2nd places exceeds the 1st places so there is an obvious need for me to improve.

Hope this makes the cut!

Sheriff




[/ QUOTE ]

Think this will be a close match, if anyone wants to have a bet with me, I will be backing The Sheriff!

I sense that I might be able to get some odds here, (as Fossilman for some reason is well known) so everything I win above even odds I will donat to the Stars Tsunami fund.
(If I bet $50 and the other person bets $75 and I win I will donate $25.)

Sheriff, I know you can do this!

And a BIG Thank You to Fossilman, a great ambassador for Poker.

ToT

[whiskeytown]

I'm probably gonna miss this - be sleeping in after work.

If you could change it to a BOXING match, I'd be up for watching it - any chance? - we know Raymer can throw a punch...how about Sherrif Fatman... /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Sheriff Fatman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A prolonged period of hiding may be in order if things do not go to plan!

[/ QUOTE ]

Hey! i don't swing that way!

[/ QUOTE ]

That's the problem with so many 2+2 users nowadays - no word is safe to use anymore!

Sheriff

[Sheriff Fatman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
From: Sheriff Fatman

Havana

I'd be interested in playing this - it would fit well into my strategy of focusing on SnG's at present.

[/ QUOTE ]



[/ QUOTE ]

That sure seems like a long time ago - I haven't played a cash SnG since July!

Sheriff

[DonButtons]

I bet $5k straight up on fatman...play money that is....

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
I bet $5k straight up on fatman...play money that is....

[/ QUOTE ]

does vegas have a line?

[jasonHoldEm]

I originally wasn't going to be able to watch this, but now I can. Good luck to both and thanks for all who put this together...going to be exciting to watch.

Peace,
J

[whiskeytown]

I'll take the bet - 5K on Raymer - play money....

but if I lose, I can't start transferring till I get home tomorrow. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

RB

[moondogg]

Well that was quick. Raymer wins in the 11th minute.

[Sheriff Fatman]

If you blinked, you missed it.

Sheriff was PWNED!

[eastbay]

One bonus might be that the zillion railbirds who now know about 2+2 and "the zoo" might not be so inclined to come here for advice... lol.

Tough break, sheriff. That's poker.

eastbay

[TeeJayORTj]

4 6 is a deadly hand...just ask The Matador

[jasonHoldEm]

[ QUOTE ]
Well that was quick. Raymer wins in the 12th minute.

[/ QUOTE ]

I play the last hand exactly the same way as sheriff...in fact I was yelling at my computer that raymer was bluffing. Guess not...unlucky.

J

[ArthurD]

Ouch, A9 (TPTK) pushes against the 46os straight... /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[deacsoft]

[ QUOTE ]
If you blinked, you missed it.

Sheriff was PWNED!

[/ QUOTE ]

You took it like a man, though. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
If you blinked, you missed it.

Sheriff was PWNED!

[/ QUOTE ]

I think he was holding better cards sheriff. Will we be seeing HH here in the zoo?

[eMarkM]

Yeah, Fossilman made mince meat out of our champ. Final hand Sheriff went all-in with top pair, but Greg had made a low straight on the turn.

[jasonHoldEm]

[ QUOTE ]
If you blinked, you missed it.

Sheriff was PWNED!

[/ QUOTE ]

You've still played HU with one more world champion than the very large majority of us have. And hey, you lasted longer than david williams right? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif Chin up mate, nothing to be ashamed of.

J

[moondogg]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Well that was quick. Raymer wins in the 12th minute.

[/ QUOTE ]

I play the last hand exactly the same way as sheriff...in fact I was yelling at my computer that raymer was bluffing. Guess not...unlucky.

J

[/ QUOTE ]

It wasn't a commentary on skill, just on time.

[jasonHoldEm]

yeah I know, sorry if I implied anything else. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Sheriff Fatman]

OK

Greg's just emailed me his hand history so I'm gonna have a quick private post mortem (which won't take long given there's so few hands), then I'll post the info.

After that, the floodgates can open good and proper!

Sheriff

Maybe you can win a WSOP seat and play him on the final table.

[Sheriff Fatman]

[ QUOTE ]
Maybe you can win a WSOP seat and play him on the final table.

[/ QUOTE ]

If I ever do I'll be safe in the knowledge that it can't go any worse! /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Sheriff

[Sheriff Fatman]

OK then, I can't get the hand converter to work properly so seeing as there's only 17 hands /images/graemlins/blush.gif I'll post them manually. Apologies for any typos.

Sheriff

Hand 1
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T2,500
Fossilman T2,500

Sheriff has 3 /images/graemlins/club.gif2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossiman calls 10, Sheriff checks.

Flop Q /images/graemlins/heart.gifK /images/graemlins/heart.gif2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff bets 60.
Fossilman folds.

(Fossilman had 5 /images/graemlins/club.gif3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif)
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Hand 2
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T2,520
Fossilman T2,480

Sheriff has J /images/graemlins/spade.gif2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Sheriff posts SB 10
Fossilman posts BB 20

Sheriff calls 10, Fossilman checks.

Flop Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Fossilman checks, Sheriff checks

Turn 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Fossilman checks, Sheriff bets 60, Fossilman calls.

River K /images/graemlins/club.gif

Fossilman checks, Sheriff checks.
Fossilman has 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif3 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and wins with a pair of 3's.
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Hand 3
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T2,440
Fossilman T2,560

Sheriff has J /images/graemlins/spade.gif3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossilman calls 10, Sheriff checks.

Flop K /images/graemlins/heart.gif6 /images/graemlins/club.gifQ /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff checks, Fossilman checks

Turn 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Sheriff checks, Fossilman checks

River A /images/graemlins/club.gif

Sheriff checks, Fossilman bets 40, Sheriff folds.

(Fossilman had J /images/graemlins/club.gif4 /images/graemlins/club.gif)
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Hand 4
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T2,420
Fossilman T2,580

Sheriff has Q /images/graemlins/club.gif8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Sheriff posts SB 10
Fossilman posts BB 20
Sheriff raises to 60
Fossilman folds.

(Fossilman had 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gifT /images/graemlins/spade.gif)
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Hand 5
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T2,440
Fossilman T2,560

Sheriff has T /images/graemlins/spade.gif4 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossilman calls 10, Sheriff checks.

Flop A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif8 /images/graemlins/heart.gif6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff bets 40, Fossilman calls.

Turn T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff bets 100, Fossilman calls.

River 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Sheriff bets 150, Fossilman calls.

Fossilman shows A /images/graemlins/heart.gifJ /images/graemlins/heart.gif and wins with a pair of Aces.
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Hand 6
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T2,130
Fossilman T2,870

Sheriff has A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff posts SB 10
Fossilman posts BB 20
Sheriff raises to 60
Fossilman calls.

Flop K /images/graemlins/heart.gif9 /images/graemlins/club.gif6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Fossilman checks, Sheriff bets 80, Fossilman calls.

Turn Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Fossilman checks, Sheriff checks

River 6 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Fossilman bets 160, Sheriff calls

Fossilman shows 6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif and wins with trip 6's.
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Hand 7
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,830
Fossilman T3,170

Sheriff has 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif2 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossilman calls 10, Sheriff checks.

Flop 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif6 /images/graemlins/club.gifK /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Sheriff checks, Fossilman checks.

Turn T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff checks, Fossilman checks.

River Q /images/graemlins/club.gif
Sheriff checks, Fossilman checks.

Fossilman shows A /images/graemlins/club.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif and wins with Ace high
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Hand 8
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,810
Fossilman T3,190

Sheriff has 7 /images/graemlins/heart.gif3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Sheriff posts SB 10
Fossilman posts BB 20
Sheriff raises to 50
Fossilman calls.

Flop T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Fossilman checks
Sheriff bets 100
Fossilman raises to 300
Sheriff folds

(Fossilman had K /images/graemlins/spade.gif6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif)
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Hand 9
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,660
Fossilman T3,340

Sheriff has T /images/graemlins/diamond.gif8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossilman folds.
(Fossilman had J /images/graemlins/club.gif5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif)
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Hand 10
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,670
Fossilman T3,330

Sheriff has A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Sheriff posts SB 10
Fossilman posts BB 20
Sheriff raises to 60
Fossilman folds.
(Fossilman had 5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif)
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Hand 11
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,690
Fossilman T3,310

Sheriff has Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossilman folds.
(Fossilman had 3 /images/graemlins/club.gifJ /images/graemlins/heart.gif)
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Hand 12
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,670
Fossilman T3,330

Sheriff has A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff posts SB 10
Fossilman posts BB 20
Sheriff raises to 60
Fossilman calls.

Flop Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gifK /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Fossilman bets 80
Sheriff raises to 200
Fossilman calls 120

Turn 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Fossilman checks
Sheriff checks

River 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Fossilman bets 320
Sheriff folds

(Fossilman had 9 /images/graemlins/spade.gifK /images/graemlins/heart.gif)
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Hand 13
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,440
Fossilman T3,560

Sheriff has 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossilman calls, Sheriff checks

Flop J /images/graemlins/spade.gif9 /images/graemlins/spade.gifA /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Sheriff checks
Fossilman bets 20
Sheriff folds
(Fossilman had T /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif !!)
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Hand 14
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,420
Fossilman T3,580

Sheriff has T /images/graemlins/club.gif4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Sheriff posts SB 10
Fossilman posts BB 20
Sheriff folds
(Fossilman had 7 /images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ /images/graemlins/heart.gif)
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Hand 15
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,410
Fossilman T3,590

Sheriff has J /images/graemlins/diamond.gifJ /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Fossilman posts SB 10
Sheriff posts BB 20

Fossilman calls
Sheriff raises to 60
Fossilman calls 40

Flop A /images/graemlins/club.gifA /images/graemlins/diamond.gifJ /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Sheriff rubs his hands in glee thinking that his luck may have changed and checks
Fossilman checks

Turn A /images/graemlins/heart.gif (Sheriff weeps quietly in the corner)

Sheriff bets 120
Fossilman folds
(Fossilman had 5 /images/graemlins/club.gif3 /images/graemlins/club.gif)
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Hand 16
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,470
Fossilman T3,530

Sheriff has 8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Sheriff posts SB 15
Fossilman posts BB 30
(Sheriff celebrates surviving to Level 2)

Sheriff folds
(Fossilman had 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif)
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Hand 17
Starting Stacks:
Sheriff T1,455
Fossilman T3,545

Sheriff has A /images/graemlins/club.gif9 /images/graemlins/club.gif

Fossilman posts SB 15
Sheriff posts BB 30

Fossilman calls
Sheriff checks

Flop 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif9 /images/graemlins/spade.gif2 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

Sheriff bets 60, Fossilman calls

Turn 5 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sheriff bets 150
Fossilman raises to 450
Sheriff raises all-in to 1,365
Fossilman calls

Fossilman has 6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif and has the nut straight.

Turn 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif (irrelevant)
------------------------------------
Hand 18

Sheriff apologises to the Zoo and regrets to advise that there was no hand 18.

[Myrtle]

....don't feel bad, Fatman.

If you ever get to make it to our neck of the woods(Foxwoods), I'll make sure that you get the chance to sit down with Greg and engage in some 5,5 PL ring game action.

Believe me, there are many who've thought less than complimentary things about his play......Most of them have left that table minus a good chunk of change.

Putting Greg on a hand is pretty damned impossible. I've seen him clean people clocks with regularity.

Now, for the skeptics out there........"This ain't hero worship".

I know there are players that have put in more hours at the tables with Greg than I have. But, I've played a fair amount in tourns, ring games and h/u with him, plus because we're good friends, I've had the benefit of many hundreds or hours of discussions with him regarding the game.

He plays the game at a level that most of us wish we could.....

[SackUp]

damn, rough last hand. betting into the nuts, ouch!

hey all good though. heads up can be pretty random.

[Sheriff Fatman]

Just been flicking through the hand history file to see what the hell was being said while we were playing (don't know how Greg keeps up with it but he seemed to catch several comments as they whizzed past).

Anyhow, after hand 12 when I'd folded to a Fossilman bet on the river I jokingly typed the following into the chat box:

debaser said, "i hate him already /images/graemlins/smile.gif"

I didn't spot it at the time but I've just found the following a few lines further down the chat:

RugDoctor [observer] said, "i hate him more"

And with that, I re-discovered the gift of laughter!

Sheriff

[jasonHoldEm]

[ QUOTE ]
RugDoctor [observer] said, "i hate him more"

And with that, I re-discovered the gift of laughter!

[/ QUOTE ]

Nice.

[deacsoft]

Favored preflop: Sheriff 9, Fossilman 8
Preflop favorite hands won: Sheriff 4, Fossilman 6
Average % favored preflop: Sheriff 67.4%, Fossilman 62.45%
Hands won: Sheriff 6, Fossilman 11
Dominated preflop: Sheriff 3, Fossilman 3
Best hand made: Sheriff A-A-A-J-J, Fossilman A-J-T-9-5 (flush)

Just some quick stats I came up with. It seems as though Sheriff had the best of Fossilman preflop, but the cards just didn't hit for him.

[whiskeytown]

Attn Donbuttons....

you owe me 5K of play money - but if you just drop $100 of real money in my account I'll let it go -

never doubt my man Fossilman, man....

RB

/images/graemlins/grin.gif

[Mike Haven]

*********** # 1 **************

bluffer96 [observer] said, "congrats on the wsop greg"
fendien [observer] said, "if you don't mind me asking"
CSUram5 [observer] said, "goodluck greg"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "king of the zoo tournament ?"
RaSZi [observer] said, "HI TRAVIS"
ab_initio [observer] said, "what is this thing?"
timthegem [observer] said, "can't believe the stakes aren't higher"
500lbgorilla [observer] said, "The ZOO is insanity."
FossilMan said, "sorry, on the phone working on my website"
FossilMan said, "I'm here now in full"
fendien [observer] said, "what is the zooo"
AwesomeAli [observer] said, "debaser is the 2004 king of the zoo"
Myrtle [observer] said, "lol"
FossilMan said, "gl and let's have fun!"
Holis [observer] said, "what website greg ?"
ab_initio [observer] said, "ZOO?"
OnTheTurn16 [observer] said, "yeah rammer"
ab_initio [observer] said, "what the heck is that?"
fendien [observer] said, "YO GREG NEED SOME WEBSITE HELP"
OnTheTurn16 [observer] said, "your my idol"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "?"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "king of the zoo is some tournament among half-
decent poker players on pstars"
moondogg811 [observer] said, "it's the zoo"
FossilMan said, "www.fossilmanpoker.com"
fendien [observer] said, "I"M GOOD AT FLASH AND HTML"
debaser said, "i'm all for that"
farha1472 [observer] said, "Gl Greg."
Mikey Gouls [observer] said, "cool"
MLuckyB85 [observer] said, "woohoo"
mclaughlin04 [observer] said, "how do you get in the zoo?"
ab_initio [observer] said, "what zoo?"

*********** # 2 **************

MLuckyB85 [observer] said, "zooo!!!"
moondogg811 [observer] said, "the zoo, you know, the zoo"
ab_initio [observer] said, "do you have to have se x with animals?"
FossilMan said, "lots of observer chat; don't be offended if I fail to
respond; I might have just missed your comment"
Mikey Gouls [observer] said, "hey fossilman ur my favorite"
MLuckyB85 [observer] said, "YES"
GizzyGurl [observer] said, "u people are all so stupid"
dancraw [observer] said, "Raymer needs that $200 bad"
KT032086 [observer] said, "yeayyaaaa"
jtcheeta [observer] said, "j"
shooter10286 [observer] said, "WHY DOESN'T EVERBODY SHUT UP AND LET THEM
PLAY"
mrbluffer1 [observer] said, "Fossil, u playing at the New England Classic
in March?"
fendien [observer] said, "yooooo greg would you possibly play me a heads
up later?? it'd make my year sir"
icemaster19 [observer] said, "HEY GREG CONGRATS"
timthegem [observer] said, "don't talk about the players like that Gizzy"
Lazybayrat [observer] said, "hey raymer hook me up with like 10 bux"
jtcheeta [observer] said, "im sure they're ignoring all of you anyway"

*********** # 3 **************

FossilMan said, "woohoo! My first correct read of sheriff"
KT032086 [observer] said, "hshshs"
GizzyGurl [observer] said, "talking to u fools"
KT032086 [observer] said, "hahaha"
Myrtle [observer] said, "B<)"
debaser said, "it won't be the last!"
I-20 [observer] said, "graphic looks nice on your site greg"
byung2003 [observer] said, "WOULD ALL OF YOU SHUT THE **** UP AND LET THE
TWO PLAY"
ab_initio [observer] said, "GREG YOU KNOW JANET SCHOTTEL?"
Mikey Gouls [observer] said, "what the man cant have a fan base GIZZY"
KT032086 [observer] said, "oh okay"
FossilMan said, "if I guess, I have to be right sometimes"
MLuckyB85 [observer] said, "ZOOO"
Mikey Gouls [observer] said, "why dont u shut up"
ab_initio [observer] said, "JANET SCHOTTEL?"
fendien [observer] said, "----GREG ---- do you need website help????"
KT032086 [observer] said, "you shutup and click notes or something"
fendien [observer] said, "i'm a web developer who would love to help"

*********** # 4 **************

debaser said, "weak tight is my thing!"
timthegem [observer] said, "ever chugged a jar of gravy before, Greg?"
Myrtle [observer] said, "Fendien...he has it.....ty though"
lorinda [observer] said, "gl champ"
dancraw [observer] said, "i'm taking notes on raymer..."
FossilMan said, "ty; I have a webmaster who I was just talking with"
ab_initio [observer] said, "GREG - YOU KNOW JANET SCHOTTEL?"
FossilMan said, "who said Janet Schottel?"

*********** # 5 **************

ab_initio [observer] said, "I DID"
Mikey Gouls [observer] said, "o hi greg"
FossilMan said, "she was my advisor in Grad school"
timthegem [observer] said, "they didn't say it....they YELLED it"
ab_initio [observer] said, "MY UG ADVISOR"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "rofl"
ant013 [observer] said, "fossil what's on your site?"
LowStack024 [observer] said, "kathy kocot?"
ab_initio [observer] said, "IM AT CALTECH NOW"
ab_initio [observer] said, "AFTER UM"
debaser said, "yep, i suck!"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "nh"

*********** # 6 **************

debaser said, "nh"
timthegem [observer] said, "yep"
jedi333 [observer] said, "hi all"
FossilMan said, "ty"
ab_initio [observer] said, "anyway, JANET SAYS HI"
tru_import [observer] said, "so guys what do you think greg's bankroll is
like"
FossilMan said, "great; please email me with her email if you can"
ab_initio [observer] said, "SURE NP"
BeL0WaB0Ve [observer] said, "how come this match came about?"
farha1472 [observer] said, "Gettin in the WSOP next year, Greg?"
mclaughlin04 [observer] said, "farha what kind of ? is htat"
mclaughlin04 [observer] said, "that"
ab_initio [observer] said, "SHE DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THE POKER THING UNTIL
RECENTLY"
Rosco639 [observer] said, "hey Raymer I thought your shades would have
caught on but I haven't seen them in any card rooms yet"

*********** # 7 **************

bluffer96 [observer] said, "nh"
Lazybayrat [observer] said, "im just lookin for like 10 bux"
ab_initio [observer] said, "DIDNT BELIEVE ME AT FIRST"
FossilMan said, "I didn't play poker in grad school"
FossilMan said, "well, once every few months"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "nh"
byung2003 [observer] said, "Lazy get the **** out of here"
ab_initio [observer] said, "SHE SAID YOU WERE ALWAYS IN LAB"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "hey raymer, when you're done, will you play me
HU for 1k?"
byung2003 [observer] said, "go beg for money on the street"
ab_initio [observer] said, "WORKING ON SCABIES"

*********** # 8 **************

timthegem [observer] said, "sick"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "RAMERRRRRRRRRR"
Lazybayrat [observer] said, "i do that too"
Junaid0 [observer] said, "damn it, they shoulda made this a 1k event, so
we don't get scabs"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "RAYMERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR"
Holis [observer] said, "admin please block chat already"
eMarkM [observer] said, "hey greg, hey debaser"
marfom [observer] said, "#"
icemaster19 [observer] said, "lol"
defilation [observer] said, "i know"
Myrtle [observer] said, "hey Ed.........."
jedi333 [observer] said, "what's up Ed"
debaser said, "can't talk. losing"
byung2003 [observer] said, "could you please block the chat"
Toro85 [observer] said, "hey myrtle"
78chief [observer] said, "OCEANS ELEVEN RULES DUDE"

*********** # 9 **************

jedi333 [observer] said, "why would you want to block the chat?"
Dimitriman [observer] said, "THAT WAS TOTALLY BULL"
Myrtle [observer] said, "hey Toro....responding to that string again"
SwAeromotion [observer] said, "driving out both draws"
byung2003 [observer] said, "THE LOBBY CHAT"

*********** # 10 **************

creepngdeath [observer] said, "are you guys really only playing for 200?"
FossilMan said, "BTW, I am also donating if I win, so no matter what, the
charity comes out ahead"
jedi333 [observer] said, "geez, just block the chat yourself"
debaser said, "cool"

*********** # 11 **************

Toro85 [observer] said, "Carlo better get on when he gets back"
YULivin4 [observer] said, "im charity"
timthegem [observer] said, "say "block chat" if you're outrageously gay"
jedi333 [observer] said, "cool Fossil"
GOWEIRSY [observer] said, "Thats nice for a guy who just won 5 million
!!!"
Myrtle [observer] said, "I hope so"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "thats nice of u"
JaHust11 [observer] said, "h"

*********** # 12 **************

GOWEIRSY [observer] said, "im sure the taxes were a *****"
bowlingman31 [observer] said, "lol"
sugawolf17 [observer] said, "close to 2 mil in taxes probably"
KT032086 [observer] said, "yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa"
byung2003 [observer] said, "debaser let him win so the charity wins"
SwAeromotion [observer] said, "I'd take that tax problem"
DazzaSmith [observer] said, "come on SHERIFF"
dancraw [observer] said, "is that story about you getting jumped at
Bellagio true?"
GOWEIRSY [observer] said, "haha ya so would i"
KT032086 [observer] said, "whats tommorrow"
justaloser [observer] said, "GL, fossilman. I spoke to you a couple times
by PM"
eMarkM [observer] said, "lets go KOTZ!"
Jay Casino [observer] said, "Let's go champ"
CrRoyalMan [observer] said, "how are you guys handeling the fame?"
eMarkM [observer] said, "go Greg!"
KT032086 [observer] said, "all in"
eMarkM [observer] said, "go debaser!"
byung2003 [observer] said, "debaser is screwed"
starpt [observer] said, "whos debaser?"
Myrtle [observer] said, "nice bet, Greg.............."
SwAeromotion [observer] said, "Fossil: Q?"

*********** # 13 **************

eMarkM [observer] said, "still early"
SwAeromotion [observer] said, ";D"
WrayGun [observer] said, "greg, will you playing in the Plaze World Poker
Classic $50,000 buy in"
FossilMan said, "I had the K"
debaser said, "i hate him already /images/graemlins/smile.gif"
WrayGun [observer] said, "Plaza*"
eMarkM [observer] said, "will you guys post your hand histories?"
YULivin4 [observer] said, "any obs..what is the "zoo" champ"
CSUram5 [observer] said, "i knew you did greg"
GOWEIRSY [observer] said, "haha what did u have debaser"
CSUram5 [observer] said, "your so easy to read"
Toro85 [observer] said, "be patient sherrif"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "king of the zoo"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "was a tournament"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "on pokerstars"
YULivin4 [observer] said, "ok thx"

*********** # 14 **************

Myrtle [observer] said, "Zoo is the Internet forum on 2+2"
YULivin4 [observer] said, "when?"
starpt [observer] said, "oh i c /images/graemlins/laugh.gif thanks"
RugDoctor [observer] said, "i hate him more"
bowlingman31 [observer] said, "lol"
SwAeromotion [observer] said, "half the pot with a pair on board. had
either the K or Q"
FossilMan said, "I was ready for the all-in raise. ;-)"
YULivin4 [observer] said, "private?"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "raymer your on tv right now"
eMarkM [observer] said, "i am the tourney director of King of the Zoo"
liquid7282 [observer] said, "RUG!!!"

*********** # 15 **************

Omahahaha [observer] said, "kind of private but i mean its not hard to be
a 2+2 member"
KT032086 [observer] said, "ALLLLLLLLL INNNNNNNNNNNN"
timthegem [observer] said, "lol Williams wants you heads-up next"
FossilMan said, "yes, Game Show Network Battle of the Sexes"
slickbanker [observer] said, "How's it going, David?"
eMarkM [observer] said, "email me at kotz_td@yahoo.com if your interested"
KingDVL [observer] said, "hi my 2+2 friends"
FossilMan said, "But I'm not playing"
RugDoctor [observer] said, "I GOT NEXT"
Smoke_O_420 [observer] said, "I WANNA SEE TEECOY PLAY RAYMER"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "yup"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "do u win"
RaSZi [observer] said, "since when is teecoy awesome head sup"
sugawolf17 [observer] said, "teecoy? lol"
jtcheeta [observer] said, ".i wanna see 2fouroffsuit play Raymer"
jedi333 [observer] said, "Williams wants to play? Yeah, we have time for
8 hands"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "teecoy is pretty good HU"
KT032086 [observer] said, "yesss"
GOWEIRSY [observer] said, "Greg how can we play a 1 on 1 with you.. do u
have a minimum that you play for"

*********** # 16 **************

FossilMan said, "If you're bluffing, you were still a 98% favorite"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "i wanna see erick lindgren play raymer"

*********** # 17 **************

UH Big Tex [observer] said, "OMAHAHAHAH"
timthegem [observer] said, "Williams v Raymer for one hundred Gs? sweet"
slickbanker [observer] said, "I wanna see RigDoctor and Raymer heads up"
KingDVL [observer] said, "i wanna see sklansky play raymer..thatd be
amusing"
byung2003 [observer] said, "who wants to play heads up for $1000?"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "uh big WHP??OWHOP???"
UH Big Tex [observer] said, "WHAT UP"
Toro85 [observer] said, "we should have had a 2+2 password for the
observers"
eMarkM [observer] said, "lol"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "tommorrow ill be playing poker again"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "yay"
Myrtle [observer] said, "agreed........."
ArthurD321 [observer] said, "Fossils up, nice."
Junaid0 [observer] said, "i was watching brusier play for 5k heads up the
other day,.... Zjustin was watching to"
dr. jekyl [observer] said, "hey toro"
KingDVL [observer] said, "we need a sklansky vs malmuth tournament"
DazzaSmith [observer] said, "i want 2 see SmokingGun v Raymer that'd be
tight"
UH Big Tex [observer] said, "WATCHIN THE MAAAANN"
RaSZi [observer] said, "uhh big tex hi hi"
WrayGun [observer] said, "Dave or Greg, playing in the Plaza World Poker
Classic $50,000 buy in?"
byung2003 [observer] said, "who here wants to play me heads up for 1K???"
Toro85 [observer] said, "hey jek"
buckaroonick [observer] said, "aa"
Dimitriman [observer] said, "oh cumon"
icemaster19 [observer] said, "i do"
Dimitriman [observer] said, "he cant have it alll the time"
byung2003 [observer] said, "ok"
timthegem [observer] said, "I want to see Raymer play Chewbacca in
galactic chess"
Dimitriman [observer] said, "hes just bullying"
FossilMan said, "I know nothing of a $50K buyin event"
sugawolf17 [observer] said, "he's check raising the heck out of debaser"
Dimitriman [observer] said, "thats right"
FossilMan said, "THE NUTS!!!"
eMarkM [observer] said, "dont let him push you around !!"
Dimitriman [observer] said, "there u go"
bluffer96 [observer] said, "hey greg how do u do in the battle of the
sexes"
Omahahaha [observer] said, "gg"
Junaid0 [observer] said, "lol"
debaser said, "ouch"
GOWEIRSY [observer] said, "wow"
byung2003 [observer] said, "..."
eMarkM [observer] said, "ouch"
sugawolf17 [observer] said, "gg"
GOWEIRSY [observer] said, "gg"
FossilMan [observer] said, "gg"
ArthurD321 [observer] said, "haha"
bowlingman31 [observer] said, "VNH"
Palladium [observer] said, "hahahahahahaha"
flat5 [observer] said, "doh"
David045 [observer] said, "that was fast"
CSUram5 [observer] said, "gg"
fendien [observer] said, "nh"
eMarkM [observer] said, "well..."
OnTheTurn16 [observer] said, "greeeggg'"
Myrtle [observer] said, "oops"
onedaybest [observer] said, "Rigged"

FossilMan (button) (small blind) showed [4s 6d] and won (2910)
with a straight, Deuce to Six
debaser (big blind) showed [Ac 9c] and lost with two pair, Nines
and Deuces

MikeHaven [observer] said, "hi guys sorry i'm late"
MikeHaven [observer] said, "let's shuffle up and deal"
MikeHaven [observer] said, "guys?"
MikeHaven [observer] said, "dang"

[cnfuzzd]

Hey sheriff,

I cant even imagine sitting with the champ, but, as your going through these hands, as i know you will be, imagine they are a regular full game. You play them any differently?

Youve still played against at least one more chanmp than i have: Nice work......

peace

john nickle

[UTGunner]

Hey, the Zoo is a Social Club. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Does it surprise anyone that someone who posts mostly in the serious poker forums would beat the KOTZ? /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

I remember when the toads beat the zoo in those early Toejam tournies (back when you all kept track of who was who).

Better luck next time, Zoo.

Congrats to Greg and Sheriff for a well played game. /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[Greg (FossilMan)]

Thanks to Sheriff and everone else for making this happen. It was fun, and obviously I got rather lucky to make the best hand pretty much every pot we played. I also found the RugDoctor comment interesting, and am glad it got noticed. I certainly didn't see it at the time (I only saw some of the comments scrolling past, and responded to a few when I had time).

If I'm available and you're not looking for the 2005 WSOP Champ instead, I'll be happy to play next year's KOTZ champion in a similar match.

Thanks, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

[eMarkM]

Well, only if you repeat as champ. I only want the World Champion in a HU macth /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[Myrtle]

[ QUOTE ]
Well, only if you repeat as champ. I only want the World Champion in a HU macth /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[/ QUOTE ]

....front-running elitist swine!! (j/k, of course!!)

/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[uuDevil]

Wow, what a zo.... er, I mean freakshow. I missed it as I was busy losing money, so thanks for the atmospherics.

[Tyler Durden]

What was the deal w/ RugDoctor's comment? Does anyone know?

RugDoctor: I hate him more

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
What was the deal w/ RugDoctor's comment? Does anyone know?

RugDoctor: I hate him more

[/ QUOTE ]

A joke, I would hope and assume. You know who the rugdoctor is, I assume.

[WSOPWinner2005]

[ QUOTE ]
Thanks to Sheriff and everone else for making this happen. It was fun, and obviously I got rather lucky to make the best hand pretty much every pot we played. I also found the RugDoctor comment interesting, and am glad it got noticed. I certainly didn't see it at the time (I only saw some of the comments scrolling past, and responded to a few when I had time).

If I'm available and you're not looking for the 2005 WSOP Champ instead, I'll be happy to play next year's KOTZ champion in a similar match.

Thanks, Greg Raymer (FossilMan)

[/ QUOTE ]

Damn Greg - Thanks for the recognition /images/graemlins/smile.gif LOL

[HUSKER'66]

Hey sheriff/debaser,

Don't feel bad....you lasted 9 hands longer than rugdoctor did when he and Greg first played heads up last year. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Sorry I missed the show.

Heh, at least you still hold the KOTZ title.

Husker

[Sheriff Fatman]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What was the deal w/ RugDoctor's comment? Does anyone know?

RugDoctor: I hate him more

[/ QUOTE ]

A joke, I would hope and assume. You know who the rugdoctor is, I assume.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is exactly how I (and hopefully Greg) read it.

The comment he was responding to was clearly a joke (had a smiley on it) and, in that context it makes perfect sense.

I must admit I cracked out laughing when I saw it. The weird thing to me is that he was railbirding the game - clearly a lot of people were wondering who the 'mysterious' debaser was!

The truth will clearly be a big letdown to them!

Sheriff

[UncleDuke]

[ QUOTE ]
A joke, I would hope and assume. You know who the rugdoctor is, I assume.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, I'll admit to being clueless. Who is the rugdoctor?

[Toro]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
A joke, I would hope and assume. You know who the rugdoctor is, I assume.

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, I'll admit to being clueless. Who is the rugdoctor?

[/ QUOTE ]

David Williams