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Jay36489
01-17-2005, 10:41 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG ($42.25)
UTG+1 ($23.75)
UTG+2 ($39.6)
Hero ($30)
MP2 ($9.05)
MP3 ($23.65)
CO ($3.45)
Button ($103.75)
SB ($48.25)
BB ($39.2)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.50, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.75) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $1.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, MP2 folds, Button folds, BB calls $3.50.

Turn: ($12.75) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $4</font>, Hero calls $4.

River: ($20.75) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $5</font>, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $30.75

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 7s 6s (straight, nine high).
Hero has 4s 4h (three of a kind, fours).
CO has 9s Ts (one pair, nines).
Outcome: BB wins $30.75. </font>

Did I play this right? Did villian play this right with him betting the draw?

DoomSlice
01-17-2005, 10:44 PM
I would raise the size of the pot on the turn... way too many draws out there. Hopefully you could take it down right there. Once the scare card hits on the river call a small bet and fold to a large one... thoughts?

Jay36489
01-17-2005, 10:47 PM
I was thinking of raising the turn but feared a bigger set. Villian seemed solid.

EDIT: and when i say solid i mean solid relative to other party $25 players

istewart
01-17-2005, 10:48 PM
Definitely raise the turn. He won't fold but get your money in with the set. You're unquestionably ahead on the turn.

Jay36489
01-17-2005, 10:57 PM
It seemed like a bet to try and entice a reraise. I guess I gave him to much credit.

Sephus
01-17-2005, 11:47 PM
you can NOT fear a bigger set here. that's just crazy. you raised the flop, if he really wanted to go big on the turn he would have tried to checkraise. also, since there's a flush/straight draw possible, a bigger set would most likely reraise the flop because you've shown some strength and a club/Q/7 only hurts him.

you MUST raise this turn. calling is unspeakably bad. you are letting flush and straight draws (both strong possibilities) draw for cheap and not creating a big pot if he has a hand like 98 or JJ that he wants to back. are you adequately bankrolled? being afraid of going to the felt with sets on boards where no straights/flushes are possible will cost you tons of money in these games.

BillUCF
01-18-2005, 12:27 AM
Sephus is correct. You must raise the turn. For on-line play your flop raise is not quite enough. You should have raised $6 or $7 on the flop to make sure draws don't get the proper odds. Bad on-line players can be thick in the head so you need to make it crystal clear it is not worth it to call. When they do call that big raise you will still make enough money to easily cover the bad beats when they call u.

TheWorstPlayer
01-18-2005, 12:28 AM
Sure, I'll throw in my "You've gotta raise the turn." /images/graemlins/smile.gif

If he has a set over yours then you are losing your stack. Just resign yourself to that fact with these short stacks. Now make sure that he is losing his if he doesn't. Or at least he is going to pay to draw out on you.

Sephus
01-18-2005, 12:42 AM
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on-line players can be thick in the head so you need to make it crystal clear it is not worth it to call

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this is so wrong. you want them to think it's worth it to call if it isn't. you don't want to make the right play (folding) crystal clear.

TheWorstPlayer
01-18-2005, 12:46 AM
Yup. You make the most money when they make the biggest mistake. If you wanted them to fold, you could just push it all in. The point is that you want to make the biggest raise that they will CALL, given that you are not giving them odds to call. If you are not pricing them in, then folding is the RIGHT move. You want them to make the WRONG move.

PoBoy321
01-18-2005, 02:01 AM
Definitely raise the turn. If you're up against a legitimate hand here, it's 89, but more often than not I'd expect to see a draw. Throw out $12 on the turn, and if he calls, he calls, but when that river card hits, all you can do is call.